Article V and The Machiavellian Moment

ArticleVBlog ^ | August 31st 2016 | Rodney Dodsworth

[Jacquerie]

<>Build confidence first then move ahead with an annual Article 5 until we get the government under control.<>

Agree to all. 17th . . . 16th, and perhaps most important, an annual Article V Convention of the States.

Imagine Scotus looking over its shoulder every year wondering which of its fubar decisions will be overturned.

[Nuc 1.1]

Chuckles, they would be feeling the heat wouldn’t they?!

[servantboy777]

>>the FBI show up and arrest the parties citing a conspiracy to unravel the constitution?<<

After all I’ve seen from the FBI/BATF/DOJ/IRS over the last couple of decades...I’d say not long.

These agencies have been and are currently being weaponized against American citizens.

Hannity always talks about those 99% of good, hard working agents..yada yada. That’s flat BS. These supposed good, hard working agents closed ranks to protect one another and have for years.

I don’t trust them at all. I will never forget Waco, nor Ruby Ridge, nor Bundy ranch siege, nor lil Elian Gonzales, nor Finnican shooting. Look how they treated Roger Stone. How bout Carter Page, Popadopolous.

Not to mention covering up Hunter Biden laptop scandal, Biden’s, Clinton’s hoovering Chinese communist $$$ for years. How bout Wiener’s laptop with classified info on it? Who put it there, why did they sweep it under the rug?

Clinton foundation money laundering, Clinton state dept. pay for play, Clinton secret server allowing her to circumvent government transparency AND containing all kinds of secret documents likely gleaned by foreign intelligence.

Man...the list goes on and on. Yea..the 99% of good, hard working agents. Pfft!! what a joke.

Not ONE whistle blower at the FBI that witnessed corrupt upper echelons? Not one?

[Jacquerie]

Indeed!

[Nateman]

... It’s rather stupid to think Article 5 Convention would change anything....

What is the point of breathing? You are not going to change anything anyways. Might as well crawl into a coffin and close the lid. /s

[Nateman]

...But, if Donald Trump led the effort to force congress to do its duty?...

Imagine Trump going state state lobbying for the Article V call. Imagine him heading up the Convention itself? By stealing the Presidency from him he could become more powerful than any America since George Washington, who headed up the first Convention!

[Nateman]

...FBI show up and arrest the parties citing a conspiracy to unravel the constitution?

[Yosemitest]

I don't either, but for different reasons.

Are you religious ?
Do you believe the Bible ?

Study the "time of Jacob's trouble", and read the whole book of Ezekiel .
We're living in times - that prophesy is being fulfilled before our eyes,
and yet most people don't realize it,
and some know it in their hearts, but refuse to admit it, even unto themselves.

[Mouton]

I agree with all your points. They are looking to legalize voter fraud. We need face it, the dems are EVIL. Evil and just do not exist together. Time for a separation IMO.

[Jacquerie]

<>By stealing the Presidency from him he could become more powerful than any America since George Washington, who headed up the first Convention!<>

The Party remains terrified of Donald John Trump. Good.

[dware]

What is the point of breathing? You are not going to change anything anyways. Might as well crawl into a coffin and close the lid. /s

Well now, that added tons to the conversation. Now, tell me, do you in fact trust that the participants in an Article V setting, would follow the Constitution and guidelines set forth upon them and not subvert the guidelines, forget the Constitution and do whatever the hell they want? Do you?

[Nateman]

Yes, I am not worried. The Convention of States call at the Convention of States web site is entered into with the condition that if it goes outside the boundaries it voids the call. The precedent for calling a Convention has already been set in that the callers must have the same specific reason. (Otherwise many Conventions would have called already.)

It is already a power Congress has, Congress just requires a 2/3's vote then the same 3/4's of the states for Ratification. Funny how there is no fear uncertainty and despair about Congress going off the rails with it's similar power.

For the left the process is finding a sympathetic judge then a Court of Supreme Whim ruling and voila! A proxy amendment by 9 black robed lawyers! It has been over 200 years since the Court seized this final ruling power. The COS could finally do something about that.

[dware]

The Convention of States call at the Convention of States web site is entered into with the condition that if it goes outside the boundaries it voids the call.

The Constitution provides for many safeguards and boundaries as well, yet they continue to do whatever they want, and the courts don't stop them. To think, somehow, that they would abide by any guidelines whatsoever is simply laughable. You want a complete end to the 2nd Amendment? This is how you get it.

[Nateman]

Unless we can stop them from stealing elections the Swamp will eventually control 2/3's of Congress and will be able to propose amendments at will. California has already achieved this dubious honor with it's Legislature. That and Obama/Xiden judges will destroy the 2nd amendment.

Wither you believe it is pointless or not it is the last chance short of Civil War to save the Republic. We have nothing left to lose.

[dware]

We have nothing left to lose.

You want to see the 2nd Amendment taken out of the BoR's completely? Have an Article V Convention. You have EVERYTHING to lose with Article V. I understand the concept. I think it's a great concept. But when you have a congress/resident that doesn't care about the Constitution to begin with, it will not turn out even remotely good.

[GILTN1stborn]

Exactly