The Logic of the Coronavirus Vaccine - Some Relevant Questions to Ask

01/19/2021 | Self

[SeekAndFind]

THINK ABOUT IT!

Questions to Government we all should be asking.... If I get vaccinated:

1. Can I stop wearing the mask? - No

2. Can they reopen restaurants etc. and everyone work normally? - No

3. Will I be resistant to covid? - Maybe, but we don't know exactly, it probably won't stop you getting it

4. At least I won't be contagious to others anymore? - No, you can still pass it on, possibly, nobody knows.

5. If we vaccinate all children, will school resume normally? - No

6. If I am vaccinated, can I stop social distancing? - No

7. If I am vaccinated, can I stop disinfecting my hands? - No

8. If I vaccinate myself and my grandfather and grandmother, can we now hug each other? - No

9. Will cinemas, theatres and stadiums be reopened thanks to vaccines? - No

10. Will the vaccinated be able to gather? - No

11. What is the real benefit of vaccination? - So that the virus won't kill you.

12. Are you sure it won't kill me? - There is no such thing as 100% certainty

13. If statistically the virus didn't kill me anyway ... Why would I get vaccinated?" - To protect others. That's the goal.

14. How does vaccinating me going to protect others, if the vaccine is for personal protection. Do you know what are you talking about? - There’s always uncertainty, never a guarantee.

15. So if I get vaccinated, the others are 100% sure I'm not infecting them? - There is no 100% guarantee

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So, based on the answers to the above questions, at this time, we have to conclude that:

The vaccine does not give immunity.

Does not eliminate the virus.

Does not prevent death. Does not guarantee you won’t get it.

Does not prevent you from getting it.

Does not stop you passing it on Does not eliminate the need for travel bans. Does not eliminate the need for business closures.

Does not eliminate the need for lockdowns. Does not eliminate the need for masking.

So...what is it actually doing?????????????????????????????😂😂😂

[moovova]

“You ask too many questions, comrade. We vill send someone from the Ministry of Truth to answer them.”

[cgbg]

Has it been vetted on millions of people with decades of detailed analysis?

Nope.

After 2030, I will _consider_ taking it, if the serious vetting shows solid efficacy and minimal risk.

[cgbg]

A serious beating by Antifa will probably give the OP the desired attitude adjustment.

Unity, comrades!

Joining together for our glorious future!

[Roman_War_Criminal]

Conditioning...conditioning...conditioning...

Slow incrementalism, subtle deception, acceptance of your new ‘normal’.

[Balata]

“So...what is it actually doing?????????????????????????????😂😂😂”

It’s designed to erode the masses liberties while they accept it and become more passive.

[Slyfox]

In October of 2020, the CDC changed the definition of "herd immunity." It used to mean that the disease had went through the population to the point where most people had survived it, wherein the disease naturally died out because the majority of the population had become naturally immune to it. That used to be the gold standard of getting a handle on an outbreak.

But they changed the definition to mean when everyone has gotten vaccinated.

Why did they change the definition?

[RideForever]

You should consider a prophylactic treatment of Ivermectin / HCQ, zinc, and Budesonide before taking the vaccine. That will raise your zinc levels to combat the active virus in the vaccine, and hopefully reduce it’s lethal effects.

[SeekAndFind]

RE: You should consider a prophylactic treatment of Ivermectin / HCQ, zinc, and Budesonide before taking the vaccine. That will raise your zinc levels to combat the active virus in the vaccine, and hopefully reduce it’s lethal effects.

Yep, I agree. Why this option was never widely promoted is something that is a puzzle ( although I hear that the CDC has tolerated its use, i.e., no Physicians are barred from administering it ).

[SeekAndFind]

Edit to add: I was referring to IVERMECTIN, not HCQ or Budesonide.

[2aProtectsTheRest]

Not sure exactly what you’re referencing without a link, but the Herd Immunity Threshold is the number of immune individuals within a population required for Rt to drop below 1, thus beginning the inevitable decline in new infections as the pathogen runs out of available hosts. It’s a function of the R0, which is the rate of spread within a completely vulnerable population and it’s defined as 1-1/R0. So if your R0 is 2, HIT is 50%. If R0 is 4, HIT is 75%.

The newest variants of COVID-19 appear to have increased transmissibility, but we don’t yet have enough data to accurately assess their R0. Estimated ranges are from 4.35 to 5.7. At the high end, HIT is achieved at 82%. Immunity can be achieved either through infection (assuming the individual survives and is not immuno-compromised) or vaccination.

[Slyfox]

How I explained it was how most people who don't read medical research would understand it, that is most of America.

Fauci and his CDC pals have proved that they are speaking to their own agenda and are not trusted by an increasing number of people.

They have changed the designation of wearing masks from regular people who are not sick should not wear them to everyone needs to wear them, and they have changed the definition of herd immunity expressly to suit their own money-making opportunities.

It has been nearly a whole year of lies and deceit. I am tired for being fed a constant diet of fear.

[SeekAndFind]

RE: Immunity can be achieved either through infection (assuming the individual survives and is not immuno-compromised) or vaccination.

How long does natural immunity last compared to immunity via vaccination?

[2aProtectsTheRest]

"How long does natural immunity last compared to immunity via vaccination?"

So the short answer is we don't know yet because we haven't reached the end of immunity for any group. This is a good thing because it means immunity looks good for at least about a year. Expectations based on previous experience with SARS2003 and MERS2012 tell us we should see ~2-3 years regardless of whether you've been infected or been vaccinated. But until we get to the point of actually observing failing immunity, we can't say for certain.

One piece of good news came out recently from Moderna's Phase 1 group: the people examined maintained higher levels of neutralizing antibodies after several months than those who had been infected by SARS-CoV-2. This matches up with the evidence seen previously that showed a stronger immune response to certain vaccine candidates than from the actual infection.

[Slyfox]

What happened before vaccination? The more healthy among the population lived and their immune systems caused the death of the virus because the virus could not replicate once people's immune systems handled it correctly.

Today our immune systems work the very same way. Some people will die in the beginning because their immune systems are weak.

The problem of "vaccination only" ideas and implementation is that it ignores our natural immune responses.

The biggest boon to natural immune health has actually been sanitation - clean water, building sewage systems and clean food. These measures did more for health than giving people shots. It is interesting that more than a 100 years ago the larger cities, which were once havens for ill-health, began to clean their water, at the same time vaccines got going. Which one actually did us more good?

I am not an anti-vaxxer. However, I believe that counting solely on a shot to protect us is ignoring our own immune systems to our peril.

[HotHunt]

I'm not an anti-vaxxer either necessarily, except I haven't had a flu shot since when I was in the military back in the early 70s.

But who would voluntarily get an unproven vaccine for a virus that has a 99.8% survivability rate?

I'll take my chances like I always have.

[Jan_Sobieski]

Here is another question...

Since a study in 2012 revealed that Coronavirus Vaccines actually amplify a patient's vulnerability to future Coronavirus infections and death, why would the Medical Community force these same vaccinations?

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22536382/

[Jan_Sobieski]

...and Ivermectin reduces your .2% death rate 80%!

[HotHunt]

I’m not getting the vaccine. No need to.

[Slyfox]

Same here. I take really good care of my immune system. I visited my daughter for Christmas after she warned me that all the kids were sick. I told her I would be fine. Me and my better half were the only ones who did not get sick, not even a sniffle.

My uncle got the Swine flu shot and became paralyzed for 2 weeks.