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Trump Now Says Biden Will Have To 'Prove' His 80 Million Votes Weren't Fraudulent Before Giving Up White House
USSA News ^ | 11/27/2020 | Tyler Durden

Posted on 11/27/2020 8:27:11 AM PST by SeekAndFind

In a sharp reversal of earlier comments to reporters, President Trump on Friday said that he'll only leave the White House if Biden can prove the election wasn't fraudulent.

"Biden can only enter the White House as President if he can prove that his ridiculous “80,000,000 votes” were not fraudulently or illegally obtained," tweeted Trump, adding "When you see what happened in Detroit, Atlanta, Philadelphia & Milwaukee, massive voter fraud, he’s got a big unsolvable problem!"

Biden can only enter the White House as President if he can prove that his ridiculous “80,000,000 votes” were not fraudulently or illegally obtained. When you see what happened in Detroit, Atlanta, Philadelphia & Milwaukee, massive voter fraud, he’s got a big unsolvable problem! — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 27, 2020

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President Trump took questions from reporters on Thursday evening for the first time since Election Day. And after confirming a few days ago via Twitter that he would tell the GSA to formally begin the transition process, the president confirmed to a group of MSM journalists that he would formally surrender power to Biden should Trump's rival win the Electoral College vote.

During the scrum, Trump took about 25 minutes to rehash a series of allegations his legal team has so far made while saying flatly that Biden couldn't have done as well as he did without "fraud".

Reporters of course leapt at the opportunity to ask all kinds of salacious questions: Trump was asked if he’d physically leave the White House if the Electoral College affirms Biden’s victory - Trump replied "certainly I will, and you know that.”

After a round of antagonistic questions, Trump started lashing out at various states for dropping the ball and ruining his chances at a second term, while reiterating that this was "a rigged election...at the highest level".

Trump slammed Georgia’s Republican secretary of state - who penned an op-ed slamming Trump and his supporters - as an “enemy of the people.” He added that he would soon stage a rally in Georgia, where voters return to the polls in early January for a pair of runoff Senate races that will determine control of the Upper Chamber.

Finally, Trump repeatedly returned to questioning Joe Biden’s raw vote total, insisting the Democrat couldn’t have done so well as compared to previous Democratic candidates, although population growth historically drives growth in voting numbers while 2020 led to a particularly charged political atmosphere.

“This is not a candidate that can get 80 million votes,” he said of Biden. “The only way he got 80 million votes is through a massive fraud.”

Trump declined to say if he’d attend Biden’s inauguration, as is the custom for an outgoing president. “I’ll be honest, I know the answer, but I just don’t want to say it yet,” he said, before adding that it's "not right" that Biden has already started picking his cabinet.

Both Trump and Biden stayed close to home for the Thanksgiving holiday. The inauguration for Biden (assuming he does win the EC) would take place on Jan. 20.


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KEYWORDS: biden; electionfraud; trumptweet; voterfraud; votes
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To: lowbridge

The burden of proof has now shifted to Biden based on near irrefutable fraud. If the MSM and the DNC wanna waltz around the sh*t pile in front of them then Trumps has proved his case legally and morally.


61 posted on 11/27/2020 9:07:30 AM PST by HockeyPop
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To: cgbg
When elections are stolen by massive fraud, then there is no rule of law.

This exactly. Rule of law gives way to rule of conquest. And as such, under NO CONDITIONS should Trump and patriots give up control of the high ground (the US presidency) to the ENEMY.
62 posted on 11/27/2020 9:07:54 AM PST by In_Iowa_not_from
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To: SeekAndFind

I see that the President is still throwing bones to the press....and they go crazy. When will they learn?


63 posted on 11/27/2020 9:08:19 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: InterceptPoint
What would be his purpose? To get the media talking about the fraud. Right now the MSM Party Line is MOST HONEST ELECTION EVER. The Romney version of the story. And COVID-19 is the only real news.

And how is this going to change the narrative, which is Trump is making baseless claims about election fraud? You think that suddenly they're going to start saying "Hey, maybe there is fraud"? Really? All this is going to do is point out that Trump has to prove fraud and he doesn't done that yet.

Will the MSM take the bait? I’m not so sure.

I am. They won't, not in the way you want.

64 posted on 11/27/2020 9:08:25 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Candor7

Trump has built a prima facie case that the election was conducted fraudulently.

Now Biden must rebut it.

President Trump is right.
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I wholly believe in the idea the election was stolen from Trump but isn’t he demanding Biden has the responsibility of proving a negative?


65 posted on 11/27/2020 9:08:35 AM PST by billyboy15 ( )
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To: Liz

I’ve read here several times that the 1.8 million figure is in error. That is the number of ballots sent out during the primary.


66 posted on 11/27/2020 9:08:41 AM PST by willk (A bias news media is not a free press.)
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To: Candor7

Uh no he doesn’t.

The president was speaking loosely.


67 posted on 11/27/2020 9:09:01 AM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Vermont Lt

RE: The Electoral college will vote. That will be it.

Yep, OJ Simpson got acquitted, therefore what follows? He’s innocent?


68 posted on 11/27/2020 9:10:12 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: Vermont Lt

PA repub Mastriano just said on Bannon’s show that the repubs are going to push for a resolution, which does not require the governor’s signature, to select Trump electors.

WI ballot audit ought to be done today or tomorrow and repubs already have 200,000 bad ballots set aside.

GA is going to depend on lawsuits. There’s a lawsuit in AZ. Lawsuits in MI. Lawsuits are slow though, especially if they have to go all the way to the SC. 2 1/2 weeks isn’t much time.

On the other hand, this 2 1/2 weeks is going to seem really long to us.


69 posted on 11/27/2020 9:10:35 AM PST by Pollard (Bunch of curmudgeons)
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To: SeekAndFind

While the president’s statement is not really accurate I guess you could defend it on the ground that the electing must be accepted by states, courts and Congress.

But the reported votes being what they are, and I mean reported by the states, it is the president who has to demonstrate the election needs to be overturned or the vote totals changed.


70 posted on 11/27/2020 9:11:20 AM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: shield
any party that engages in a social contract (such as an election) and then cheats to try to unfairly “win” that contract, is disqualified by default.

Excellent post.

The _reason_ for that doctrine is that the entire legal system is based upon such things as free and fair elections.

If the elections are fraudulent then _all_ law becomes fraudulent and the social contract is destroyed.

At that point there is no moral obligation to obey any law.

The meek among us would then obey the "law" out of fear, while the strong would feel free to work their will upon the weak.

Civilization has always been fragile--just visit some ancient ruins anywhere in the world where people ask "What happened."

Now we _know_ "what happened"--we are one fraudulent election (that is not overturned) away from it happening here.
71 posted on 11/27/2020 9:11:36 AM PST by cgbg ( Remember 1876--we _can_ do this!--Biden--Office of the Prisoner-Elect)
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To: DoodleDawg

The media has been part of the ongoing coup against Trump from the beginning. You are right.

I wish the Trump team would concentrate on the most glaring things about this election and Trump would do well to talk only about them and tweet only about them. You can say there is more, but now is NOT the time to speak in generalities.

How were more mail-in ballots returned than were sent?

How did the numbers change so drastically after they said they were stopping the count and poll watchers left?

Concentrate on the big ones and force the media to address them specifically.

There was massive fraud. All kinds of fraud. However, the media is mentioning the low hanging fruit allegations and dismissing them out of hand while ignoring the big ones.

Pick the most easily proven and hammer them. Continue contesting everything in court, but manage the message!


72 posted on 11/27/2020 9:12:31 AM PST by volunbeer (Find the truth and accept it - anything else is delusional)
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To: bigbob

“if Biden is certified and has enough EVs he will become Potus, but the legal fight over fraud will not stop. What if those allegations are ultimately proven to be true (weeks or months later) - what is the remedy then?”

Gaining a veto proof majority in both the House and the Senate in the 2022 mid terms would be a huge step.


73 posted on 11/27/2020 9:13:12 AM PST by billyboy15 ( )
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To: bigbob
“Who has the burden of proof? The candidate who “won” or the candidate who claims the win was based on fraud?”

What is the legal standard and who decides?

Is a certification based on fraud valid? What happens if states do so?”

With all of the litigation, accusation, speculation and allegations flying about, may I (seriously) ask...with time rapidly running out...what happens now?

74 posted on 11/27/2020 9:13:51 AM PST by daler
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To: DoodleDawg

You are missing a crucial point about preponderance of evidence: when a police officer cites you for speeding, and you claim you weren’t, who is most likely to prevail before the judge?

Trump’s attorneys have put forth a mountain of evidence showing the fraudulent votes. Now Biden needs to refute those allegations or risk having those votes thrown out.


75 posted on 11/27/2020 9:15:07 AM PST by beancounter13
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To: billyboy15
Gaining a veto proof majority in both the House and the Senate in the 2022 mid terms would be a huge step.

Gonna be a lot of machines that will have to be destroyed before that can happen. Our version of smashing blackberry phones.

76 posted on 11/27/2020 9:16:26 AM PST by Pollard (Bunch of curmudgeons)
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To: DoodleDawg

Stop lying to people and telling them that the claims are baseless.

The evidence is clear it is preponderant and people who continue to discount multiple sworn eye witness testimony after it has been presented under oath in multiple venues, are on the fraudulent side of this election.


77 posted on 11/27/2020 9:17:16 AM PST by MIA_eccl1212 (When the bad guys have leverage they use it)
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Unless there has been widespread destruction of evidence, I would think evidence to prove or disprove would be fairly easy. We know there were votes counted and recorded, there is a paper and digital trail. How can this not be a slam dunk for Trump?


78 posted on 11/27/2020 9:20:30 AM PST by BuckeyeGOP ( )
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To: SeekAndFind

I sure hope Trump won the military vote. He got the police vote.

These two groups are good to have on his side if there is turmoil.


79 posted on 11/27/2020 9:21:14 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: edie1960

Yes sir! You are spot on. We win here or it is over. A fraudulent election can never be accepted. The traitors must be destroyed!


80 posted on 11/27/2020 9:21:27 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists...Socialists...Fascists & AntiFa...Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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