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Trump at the Rubicon How the Insurrection Act and Militia Act Empower Trump to Cast the Die
Macris.substack.com ^ | 11/18/2020 | Alexander Macris

Posted on 11/24/2020 6:31:31 AM PST by LibWhacker

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To: OIFVeteran; All
".... This would be treason and make Trump the fascist the left claims he is. We are a nation of laws. If Trump can’t prove in a court of law that [there] was fraud then he needs to concede...."

The irony in your statement is apparently lost on you.

Yes, we are a nation of laws. But you assume if Trump follows The Insurrection Act or The Enforcement of the Laws to Restore Public Order Act regarding Interference with State and Federal Law, 10 USC § 253 or the utilization of an unorganized militia under the militia act, 10 USC § 246. that this would constitute treason. But these are laws already on the books. He would not by violating or circumventing the law but utilizing or complying with it. It is not treason if he follows the law.

From the article: The authority rests solely with the President. He does not need permission from the states or their governors or the Supreme Court to invoke 10 USC § 253. He does not need to run it through the courts to prove anything. Under the law, he is given unilateral authority to institute the law as he considers necessary. If the President decides that a conspiracy has deprived people of a right and believes that authorities fail or refuse to protect the right, he can send in the troops.

From the article: Congress has given the President the authority and power to proclaim: “I, President Trump, have determined that a conspiracy has deprived 70 million Americans of their right to vote and that the other authorities are refusing to protect this right. I therefore order the suppression of this conspiracy by any means necessary.”

No doubt about it, the Left would cry treason and call him a fascist. But guess what? They are doing that right now anyway.

The forces of the entire country and in many cases, the entire world (i.e. the globalists) are arrayed against him. The American people who support and elected him did so because he is fighting for their rights, not just his. No other president in my lifetime has ever done that.

As far as him conceding to a bunch of treasonous thieves who used a corrupt system to steal the election from him, I stand behind him. Too many, including yourself, are too quick to pull the trigger before he has had time to prove his case like the Constitution allows him to do.

Giving in to the corrupt Left and buckling under to their public pressure for Trump to quit is exactly what the democRATS and the MSM want. What about standing up to them, supporting the President and doing what WE want to happen.....for him to serve a second term he justly deserves? Because he won this election and it has outright stolen from him (and us) in such a brazen way, that it should not stand.

If we are to ever get rid of the Deep State and their corrupt practices that go against the will of the American people, we need to support and follow the only man who is willing to do it for us. He should not concede.

81 posted on 11/24/2020 11:37:04 AM PST by HotHunt
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To: HotHunt

Out-friggin-standing post. 👍


82 posted on 11/24/2020 11:39:25 AM PST by nesnah (Liberals - the petulant children of politics)
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To: delchiante
And there it is, straight from our Declaration of Independence.
83 posted on 11/24/2020 11:54:34 AM PST by Semper Mark (Vlad Tepes was a piker.)
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To: Mariner; SJackson; OIFVeteran; All

It can steal be a steal if not proven as such by December 14 - with all of the consequences outlined. And make no mistake, the tight timing and the slowness of the court system, etc. are part and parcel of how they gamed this fraud. So you’re back to square 1: the Presidency has been taken in a rigged election, prospects are it is going to be permanent...what do you/we do about it?


84 posted on 11/24/2020 12:10:13 PM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. )
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To: Ancesthntr

I’m really interested in what you intend to do about it.


85 posted on 11/24/2020 12:16:39 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: LibWhacker

Bttt.

5.56mm


86 posted on 11/24/2020 12:17:05 PM PST by M Kehoe (DRAIN THE SWAMP! Finish THE WALL!)
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To: nesnah; All
Well, one doesn't usually get such praise, especially lately, for expressing one's opinion. Thank you.

I am deeply passionate that Trump is the right man, at the right time, at this point in our history. No one can name another figure who could do what he is doing. Anybody else would have already wilted under the pressure and folded their cards and tent and gone home to their mommies. Trump is not going to just up and quit because of the relentless pressure. He's in this for the duration.

With regards to Donald Trump:

Rule #2: Never violate Rule #1. Ever.

Rule #1: Never bet against Donald J. Trump. Ever.

Thanks again.

88 posted on 11/24/2020 12:29:03 PM PST by HotHunt
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To: HotHunt

Amen.....


89 posted on 11/24/2020 12:30:41 PM PST by nesnah (Liberals - the petulant children of politics)
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To: LibWhacker
The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and… under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.

One might say that the writer's POTUS estimations are on the low side. The reason I say this is because he hasn't addressed those over 45 and the role they can play and it is a substantial role at that. And keep in mind what the life expectancy was back then. Someone 45 years old was typically considered to be an old man in colonial times!

Support roles. Military strategists know what this is. Drivers, medical personnel, logistics, supplies, reconnaissance and on and on. There are many ways those who are "over aged" could be called upon.

To discount those people and the vital role they could play creates two setbacks. One is that you give that large group of "old guys", who want to help, no expectation of participation when they could be used in a beneficial way. Never waste manpower. Molly Pitcher (the old guys) might even be needed to put her pitcher down, step in, man the guns and save the day.

The second is that limited forces are diverted in that the "young guys" would be forced to do the things the old guys could be doing. Instead of having your fighting men fighting you now have to expend that resource away from fighting thus weakening yourself in the process. Let your support people fill those roles and keep your fighting units strong.

Much like Leonidas said to Ephialtes in the movie 300...

If you want to help in a Spartan victory, clear the battlefield of the dead, tend the wounded, bring them water. But as for the fight itself, I cannot use you. Now the old guys are given a choice. Will you help in a manner in which you can or will you, like Ephialtes in a huff about being denied your desire, go tell the enemy about the goat path?

From thigh to neck, Ephialtes.

90 posted on 11/24/2020 12:32:33 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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Forward The Molly Pitcher Brigade!


91 posted on 11/24/2020 12:35:07 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: gbscott

Good points, I also have troubled feelings on this matter. I have always felt that our founding fathers had gotten it right, a ship that will always right itself, but as I get older I see problems emanating from Congress a sort of soft corruption that allowed socialism to fester in our inner cities. At this stage it really looks like an infestation.
I think the quicker we address it the better we will be. If we don’t it would be far uglier and the passage long and dark.
My feelings is to isolate the areas of corruption, inner cities that violate federal law and act as socialist isolation and breeding chambers. The President could do this by utilizing the insurrection act and isolate them and control them the same way that the North governed the South- with military governors.


92 posted on 11/24/2020 1:27:22 PM PST by joegoeny ("Nuts!")
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To: Mariner

I did ask you first, but I will bite you bait anyway: If it looks like our laws have been violated by one party to subvert the will of the people as expressed in an election (and that requires a high burden of proof), and if a President concludes that this constitutes an insurrection, and if that President follows the letter of the law in putting down that insurrection, then I would back that President’s actions...regardless of which party was on which side of that equation. Note that this is what happened from 1861-1865 - there was an insurrection and President Lincoln put it down (and I don’t want to argue the merits of that conflict here or now). Obviously, I am not the President, so I will not initiate such an action; I am also older than 45, so I am unlikely to be called up for the militia if it were called to serve, but I would definitely be willing to serve to preserve this country’s form of government (as many older folks did during our Revolution and the Civil War.

Ball’s now in your court.


93 posted on 11/24/2020 2:16:29 PM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. )
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To: Arimnestos; OIFVeteran

Invoking the Insurrection Act (or it’s modern-day equivalent is, as pointed out in the article, a legal act if done in the correct manner provided in the US Code. Certainly it is not to be a decision taken lightly or for purely partisan or personal reasons, but it IS legal to do. What do you think Lincoln did in the Civil War???


94 posted on 11/24/2020 2:21:26 PM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. )
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To: Ancesthntr

With all your conditions, I agree with you.


95 posted on 11/24/2020 3:03:21 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Declare Martial Law revoke writ of Habeus Corpus, invoke the Insurrection Act, refuse to concede, refuse to leave the White House, and basically force Civil War II.

Knock it off. Take that crap elsewhere.

Unbelievable.

96 posted on 11/25/2020 9:06:28 AM PST by Fury (.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
I have been coming to the realization for 2 weeks now that the only way out of this morass is martial law.

Same thing. Can't believe that people on FR are openly advocating martial law.

A Patriot you are not.

97 posted on 11/25/2020 9:07:27 AM PST by Fury (.)
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To: Fury

How so my MSM brainwashed freeper? Cut the cable tie and within 48 hours you will regain the ability for empirical thought. Then you may actually take time to read the Insurrection act. A legal tool given to the president by Congress in the case of insurrection or foreign influence which I would argue defines the current state of our national election.


98 posted on 11/25/2020 10:06:18 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
How so my MSM brainwashed freeper? Cut the cable tie and within 48 hours you will regain the ability for empirical thought.

Move to the PRC if you want martial law.

Based on the current situation, there's no cause to invoke the Insurrection Act.

And have not had cable in years.

99 posted on 11/25/2020 10:33:56 AM PST by Fury (.)
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To: LibWhacker
The guy who wrote this apparently breezed right by an important part of § 252: "Whenever the President considers that unlawful obstructions, combinations, or assemblages, or rebellion against the authority of the United States, make it impracticable to enforce the laws of the United States in any State by the ordinary course of judicial proceedings, he may call into Federal service such of the militia of any State, and use such of the armed forces, as he considers necessary to enforce those laws or to suppress the rebellion."

In what way has the ordinary course of judicial proceedings been halted or even impaired? Courts ruling against your suits doesn't count.

100 posted on 11/25/2020 10:45:48 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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