Posted on 09/11/2020 8:11:21 AM PDT by Hojczyk
19% infected with COVID-19 require medical intervention. 14% experience severe symptoms. 5% become critical. 0.65% die. (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/clinical-guidance-management-patients.html and https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scenarios.html).
But that’s just the general population. Among more vulnerable populations (such as the elderly) the rate of death can climb to upwards of 20%. The elderly can make every attempt at protecting themselves, but some of them will still need to get groceries and other things and have no other means to do so. Same with others who have medical issues. They still need to work, get groceries, and so on. Everyone properly wearing a decent mask provides a lot of protection for them. It saves lives.
I care enough about saving lives to make the tiny sacrifice of wearing a disposable mask while indoors in public for now. Soon President Trump will announce a safe and effective vaccine and we’ll be able to start returning to a real normal.
I don’t expect the whole world to kowtow to ME. I take care of ME. You take care of YOU.
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I expect to hear a ‘self defense’ argument soon:
You are breathing on me without a mask. I’ll stand my ground, shoot you.
Then I’ll have to avoid your germ-ridden back splatter, right?
Masks are only 3% more effective than a handkerchief kept in the pocket for coughs and sneezes. Has the mask mandate been worth the 3% ?
And now please demonstrate the substantive difference between mask usage and a handkerchief kept in the pocket for coughs and sneezes.
put on a mask while indoors in a public place for a short time like when one is in the grocery store. It’s not hurting anyone and it’s not costing anything to do so. But it absolutely will save lives to do so.
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I feel my life is less safe when not wearing a mask in that situation.
Not from droplets, but from mask enthusiasts attacking me.
So I wear a mask to save my own life, from physical threats, and in the future from police arrest (see Australia).
One question? Why did the CDC publish a meta-analysis in Feb. 2020 and determined that mask use with the flu virus was not effective for either preventing infection nor preventing the spread of the infection?
A mask is there while you’re speaking, singing, and breathing. A handkerchief kept in the pocket is not. A handkerchief kept in the pocket is also unavailable when your hands are full.
A decent mask, properly worn, and disposed of after use is far more effective than a Kleenex or a handkerchief or your hand or your elbow at filtering and reducing both the volume and range of respiratory droplets.
So are you actually proposing sneezing into a mask and spending the rest of the day with snot all over your face?
“Soon President Trump will announce a safe and effective vaccine and we’ll be able to start returning to a real normal.”
Please, God, let that happen today! Announce that there is a “safe and effective vaccine”, even if there isn’t. If the idiots believe it, they’ll return to sanity — maybe. They believe the placebo masks are effective, so it makes sense that they’d believe the placebo vaccine will be effective, too.
I assume you’re talking about the Xiao study out of the University of Hong Kong? Ms. Xiao is a postgraduate student who was looking at a few small studies and finding limited evidence in support of masks or hand washing, but Xiao also acknowledge (right there in the analysis) that “Most studies were underpowered because of limited sample size, and some studies also reported suboptimal adherence in the face mask group.”
So basically, these were small studies where people often weren’t wearing masks or weren’t wearing them correctly. And what a surprise: little discernible difference in rates of infection!
“I expect to hear a ‘self defense’ argument soon: ... I’ll stand my ground, shoot you.”
I hadn’t thought of that but, yes, that could happen. Yes; they ARE that crazy.
As I understand it, that is still all theoretical and a number of studies over the years have failed to find masks making a difference in the transmission of regular cold coronaviruses.
No, I would throw that mask away and put on a clean one. People ought to be using disposable masks, or at least regularly (after each use) changing out their reusable ones.
And why would you be wearing a mask all day anyway? Unless you’re working indoors in a public place, there’s no reason. Any time you’re outdoors, a mask isn’t useful since it doesn’t spread out there. If you’re in your car or in your own home, there’s no reason to wear a mask either. Wear it while you’re grocery shopping. It’s 30 minutes, in and out, and you and everyone else in the store have the risk of transmission reduced.
You mean just like the real world?
I reject the mask cult completely. I told out of my way to not wear them.
Btw, I’ve been to several states, regularly meet new people and shake hands. Social distance is silly. Masks are evil.
Is the virus real? Absolutely
Is the response overwhelmingly overwrought? Absolutely.
The curve is beyond flattened. Open the country.
Using a mask to protect against a virus is the same as coming under gun fire and taking cover behind a chain link fence.
But, if it makes one feel better or safer, then they should wear a mask, the rest of us can make our own reasoned decisions.
Lol. Gun = freedom but put your damn mask on or suffer the power of the government.
That graph is pretty phony, pretty unrealistic.
Who do you know who doesn’t cover their mouth when they cough? Especially when they are sick?
This graph would be more realistic if it showed a 3rd panel, with the guy covering his mouth (with the inside of his elbow) like his mother taught him.
I prefer Doogle.
I feel a little bit safer when a nearby smoker starts their hacking....
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