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The Hardest Thing About This Lockdown May Be Admitting to Ourselves That It Accomplished Absolutely Nothing
RedState ^ | May 23, 2020 | Michael Thau

Posted on 05/23/2020 1:12:54 PM PDT by Michal T

This lockdown was senseless in every conceivable way. It was totally unnecessary, wouldn't have helped had it been, and completely unworkable regardless. Time to end it now and make sure nothing like this ever happens again.


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To: Michal T

It has accomplished one thing. The left as energized against Trump over this. These people are upset we’re not fearbros!


21 posted on 05/23/2020 1:31:09 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: Magnatron

It’s easier to fool a man than it is to convince him he’s been fooled.


22 posted on 05/23/2020 1:31:28 PM PDT by HIDEK6 ( God bless Donald Trump.)
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To: Michal T

WE

HAVE

BEEN

HAD


23 posted on 05/23/2020 1:33:00 PM PDT by Texas resident (Remember in November)
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To: RoosterRedux

I’m saying that maybe the original goal of “flattening the curve” and not overloading hospitals was actually genuine. Most Americans (not all, but a majority) said, ok, we can do this for two weeks, let’s pull together, yadda yadda. After that, it became a pissing contest of virtue signalling and hard left politics. “Hey, the last ten attempts to take out PDJT failed, but what if everybody’s life savings is wiped out?”. Dems salivated. The rest is history.


24 posted on 05/23/2020 1:33:41 PM PDT by workerbee (==)
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To: Da Coyote
The lockdown aided the liberal agenda in N ways (very large N). What those of us who actually produce things will do about it is up to us. And the decision is existential.

It has also hurt the liberal agenda by loosening the education establishment's grip on our young people, shuttering seminaries for left-wing activism, aka colleges, putting the "LGBQ" and "transgender" agenda on the back burner and forcing hte cancellation of events such as "gay pride" parades and the Dore Alley and Folsom street fairs.

25 posted on 05/23/2020 1:35:01 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: workerbee

The medicine has been even worse than the disease. Got a note from my credit union they opened their lobby after six weeks. Went there yesterday and was stopped at door. Only could go in with appointment. Asked why it said open with nothing about res. Answer was don’t have staff back. Seems while they “feel” unsafe they on unemployment. Together with fed supplement they making more than when working! So they “feel” unsafe. I was told this by branch manager in confidence. What a country.


26 posted on 05/23/2020 1:36:19 PM PDT by Mouton (The media is the enemy of the people.)
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To: RoosterRedux

As I said I’m not sure the lockdown did any of that. For weeks I heard we are just 2 weeks behind italy. I got daily emails from my hospital how were going to handle the overload and God for me triage care. It never happened. Those hospitals in New York that were overloaded are generally chaotic and would be swamped by a bad cold season. Add to that the nursing homes being forces to take covid patients and it turns out they manufactured their own crisis

That said it is unclear the lockdowns changed the course or amount of illness at all. Just because 2 things happened. together does not prove causation. And the areas locked down the hardest have been those hardest hit - so maybe the lockdown causes the spread of disease....


27 posted on 05/23/2020 1:37:18 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: RoosterRedux

Hospitals were only going to be overloaded in hotspot areas: no need or reason to shutter the whole country.


28 posted on 05/23/2020 1:37:34 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie ( Stop the fearmongering! Post flu statistics along side COVID-19 statistics!)
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To: Michal T
The Hardest Thing About This Lockdown May Be Admitting to Ourselves That It Accomplished Absolutely Nothing

Au contraire: it did what the dems hoped - it destroyed the roaring Trump economy.

29 posted on 05/23/2020 1:39:51 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Until I see them breaking rocks in the hot sun IÂ’ll be cleaning my guns!)
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To: RoosterRedux

“The goal was to prevent the overloading of hospitals. For the most part, it accomplished that.”

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Only at the cost of bankrupting hospitals. Putting doctors and nurses out of work, some of whom are likely to lose businesses. Causing the diagnosis of serious cancers to be delayed so as to further endanger many. Setting back schedules for “elected” surgeries that would have improved the lives of many. Creating financial strains on medical supply businesses that exist only to support the interrupted medical procedures. The list goes on I’m sure.


30 posted on 05/23/2020 1:40:45 PM PDT by Sir Bangaz Cracka (Slamming dat white cracka'a head into dat sidewalk causin he be scared)
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To: Mom MD; RoosterRedux
The Left used the same M.O. with the virus as they do with the so-called climate crisis:. It's ok now, but just wait! If you don't do as we say, doomsday is just around the corner!
31 posted on 05/23/2020 1:41:31 PM PDT by workerbee (==)
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To: Michal T
If you're talking about the government mandated lockdown you may be right, but that's because the population started "locking down" on their own before any orders.

It wasn't the government that cancelled sporting events and stopped going to restaurants, etc. etc. It was rational people looking to protect themselves and we saw the results with the curve of the disease.

What do you think the curve would look like if we hadn't social distanced and eliminated large gatherings?

As always, the people were way ahead of the government and it will be the people who decide how fast we reopen - not the politicians.

32 posted on 05/23/2020 1:41:57 PM PDT by semimojo
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To: Sir Bangaz Cracka
I didn't say the side effects weren't deadly.

I was merely giving the rational provided by the President.

As another poster said upthread, the virus was an unknown at first. We didn't know how deadly it was. We only knew that it was overwhelming the hospitals in the major cities hit.

20/20 hindsight is wonderful, but the President had to make his decisions in real time. And, given the information he had, I believe he did what was right at the time.

33 posted on 05/23/2020 1:46:03 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: semaj

“Instilling fear and cowardice amongst the weak-minded in our society, as well as social conditioning with the goal of obtaining absolute control over every aspect of people’s lives.”


At least it’s easier to identify who the weak-minded are now. And who will become enslaved more willingly.


34 posted on 05/23/2020 1:46:58 PM PDT by punknpuss
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To: The_Media_never_lie
Hospitals were only going to be overloaded in hotspot areas: no need or reason to shutter the whole country.

Correct, in hindsight.

If we had known what we know now, it would have been better to lockdown overloaded hospital cities and keep the rest of the country open and isolate the vulnerable.

But that's based on what we now know.

35 posted on 05/23/2020 1:48:57 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Mom MD

It [the lockdown] was never about the Chinese flu.it was always about getting President Trump out of Office. Ancillary purposes included, seeing how the American public would react to being placed under strict Government control. How would the American public react to having strict restrictions placed on them. How difficult would this be to achieve. Where would the resistance, if any , come Who would rebel and who would comply from. Response by Americans to Americans to Americans being placed in two additional categories: essential and non essential. Plus other objectives known only to the Globalists.


36 posted on 05/23/2020 1:50:59 PM PDT by sport
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To: Michal T

Then those who locked everyone down MUST be punished. They are going to have to pay a price.


37 posted on 05/23/2020 1:51:56 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Michal T

Very true. We need to get laws in place preventing elderly unelected bureaucrats from taking over the country, and laws to prevent politically declared “health emergencies” from being able to completely suppress the Constitution and our Constitutional rights and protections.

I don’t know why Trump let him do that. I’m sure he knows he did the wrong thing, and nobody wants to talk about it...especially the Dem politicians who did really, really wrong things and will defend them till the day they die.

If anybody can rebuild us it will be Trump, but we’re not even going to know the full devastation until everything opens up again.


38 posted on 05/23/2020 1:52:38 PM PDT by livius
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To: Michal T

We are living in two countries and two societies.


39 posted on 05/23/2020 1:53:54 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: sport
Do you know anyone who caught this virus? It was very real.

That said, we know the Democrats have been overtaken by communists so of course they are going to take full advantage of ANY opportunity to further their agenda.

40 posted on 05/23/2020 1:56:15 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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