Posted on 05/04/2020 11:20:21 AM PDT by sonrise57
My Quest Diagnostics anti-body test was negative. I can't help but feel that there is something fishy with this and the other tests that are being pushed on us.
It seems almost impossible to me that I was not exposed to the novel coronavirus. Here is why I feel that way:
1. About a week after sitting for 3 hours in an enclosed room to hear a young pastor's oral ordination exam, a fellow examiner alerted me that he had tested positive for the virus and his whole house was on lockdown (end of March). Three members of this pastor's congregation were hospitalized and went to their reward.
2. My daughter is an RN. She lives in our home and has had regular exposure to the virus (she uses PPE) and has also tested negative for the antibodies.
3. A young woman who boards with our family works in fast food and the restaurant where she works has had several postive cases.
4. One of the facilities I visit as a hospice chaplain (before the Dr. took me off the road) has had over 79 positive cases and 9 deaths.
How is it possible I have had no exposure? My conclusion-- a. I am lucky; b. I have natural immunity or resistance; c. this virus is not as infectious as the fear mongers want us to believe, OR d. the whole testing thing is an incompetently administrated scam.
Any thoughts?
If you have kept up the regimen you describe— then, with the addition of Quercitin.... that is the exact regiment recommended for physicians who are treating SARSCOV2-19 CCP virus patients— for them to take as preventative.
Recommended by a physician learning you tub page called MedCram. Excellent series of videos, meant for professionals to keep from getting infected. This would explain it. The N-acetyl Cysteine is the supplement which makes the ACE2 receptor site on cells less able to accept the Virus “corona” S proteins-—IOW it blocks the receptor.
Incredibly really important is the ACE Blocker Losartan (CoZaar brandname) it BLOCKS the ACE2 receptors most prevalent in the lungs where the virus tries to get into those cells. The LOSARTAN is probably the MAJOR reason why you have not been infected,along with good hygeine. Keep taking it, as well as the regimen you have. The Losartan makes the quercitin less important.
Question for you: where do you obtain NAC? caps/tablets— how?
Here are the two videos that apply to your Qs:
March 16th on the ACE2 receptor blocking:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vZDVbqRhyM
April21-On the doctors daily practice routine- supplements, and his sterile procedure for gowns, gloves mask coming home, etc— you don’t need that info if you’re not an MD. The supplements he lists—every thing you take except losartan and quercitin:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NM2A2xNLWR4
“I take zinc, vitamin D, vitamin C, and NAC supplemenst daily.”
That might be your answer right there. These are great supplements to help prevent catching viruses and other infections. I take zinc, vitamins D & C, and in more recent times occasionally liposomal glutathione (better than NAC, but more expensive), and I haven’t caught the flu in over a decade.
Antibody tests aren’t being pushed on anybody because we have no idea what they mean. There clearly are false positives and false negatives, they don’t indicate active infection and they don’t indicate immunity.
Not sure why anyone would do one at this point. They may have some usefulness for population screening - I mean, like, a million tests a week for twelve weeks.
I don’t know what you mean by (4), but the first three you list sound like POSSIBLE exposure, but scant reason to PRESUME you’ve been exposed.
1) He wasn’t positive yet when you interviewed him.
2) LOTS of nurses AREN’T positive.
3) Lots of people were tested positive at the restaurant... but not 100%. Why think she’s positive?
good question. i’ve been told that nobody knows the answer to how long the antibodies last for this virus.
since it is a cold virus, it could act like other ones, where the protection is temporary. you get the same cold every year or twice a year. or it could be permanent or somewhere in the middle with IgM immunity.
for what its worth, i’m told that the hospital is planning for another surge in nov.
Your immune system is apparently strong. I never get the flu shot, and rarely get the flu. When I have gotten the flu, it is a one or 2 day experience, and then I’m done with it. Yet others are sick for weeks before they feel normal. This virus does not have super powers to infect everyone, despite what the media is telling us. So just because you have been around people with it, doesn’t mean you have to have it.
being exposed is not the same thing as being infected, and antibodies develop only if one is infected ...
Do you know if these Quest Diag offices all perform this test? Most?
Thank you so much. Very informative. My mother was a huge Vitamine C person-years before it was a thing. She was Cadet Nurse during WW2 and was the RN for the Dr. in Passaic, NJ who pioneered the reatachement of severed limbs. She instilled in me the value of supplementation, so I have been researching what kind of supplements are having contributing to COVID resistance/immunity. One thing I failed to mention in my litany is that my wife and returned from a cruise on February 29, so there were so many opportunities for exposure. Again— thanks for the information.
it’s also possible the Quest antibody test is simply unreliable; most of the C-19 tests currently in use were never independently validated by the FDA for accuracy, but instead were “approved” on an emergency-only basis ...
unless a test has been thoroughly validated on thousands of subjects, some of whom are are known to be positive, some known to be negative and some whom are unknown, and all of this is done under rigorous conditions, a tst might have a very large false positive or a very large false negative rate, both, or those rates might be unknown ...
Forgot to answer one of your questions. I get the NAC tablets from Puritan Pride.
They have offices in our local Immediate Care offices.
Thanks so much for all that information.
If done recently at Quest ($119.) this was a blood draw test (not a finger stick test)...the recently FDA approved Roche blood draw antibody test is close to 100% accurate. (Am not sure what brand test Quest is currently using).
https://www.zdnet.com/article/i-got-quests-new-covid-19-antibody-test-and-it-was-strange/
https://education.questdiagnostics.com/faq/FAQ219
https://www.roche.com/media/releases/med-cor-2020-05-03.htm
quest indicates that they’re not using an FDA-validated test:
https://education.questdiagnostics.com/faq/FAQ219
For $119. they should go ahead and get the Roche test:
https://www.roche.com/media/releases/med-cor-2020-05-03.htm
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coronavirus-antibody-test-roche-fda-approval/
Maybe you were exposed but produced no antibodies? Is that possible?
Just had my first Covid test Sat morning, and they did *both* blood & swabs - including swabs in both nostrils. This is because I'm slated for an outpatient procedure on Weds, and the clinic now requires this level of testing before your operation. Wow, what a difference 5-1/2 weeks makes .... at my previous procedure, I was the only one in the clinic who had on a mask and gloves. (Other than the staff who were about to enter the operating room with me, who put them on at the last minute). I asked about the lack of PPE, but they seemed pretty nonchalant about it.
You are now to take up your brothers lamp and wield it...as you are now doing.
I do not want to be in another government database....
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.