Italian Government to Investigate Nursing Homes on Manslaughter Charges after 40% of Coronavirus Deaths Occurred in Senior Homes

Caveat: The Italian government does have a history of blaming people, such as seismologists, for things for which they have no control.

However, it is not beyond reason that poor practices at some nursing homes, here and abroad, are responsible for the high number of deaths there.

I wonder what the correlations are in this country concerning the high rates of deaths at some nursing homes and the number of citations for this, that, and the other thing they have had in their history.

Of course, there are those instances when policies instituted by governors, ahem Mr. Cuomo, vis-a-vis nursing homes have caused huge problems.

My point: Could something like, say, 50% of all deaths in nursing homes from COVID-19 been prevented?

Hmmm.....Just like New York!

Instead of suing nursing homes why in the hell are they not suing China??? What a STUPID IDEA put all the nursing homes out of business so you have NOWHERE to care for your elderly!!!

They need to do the same in NY. 3500 nursing home deaths and the boat, javits center and central park triage were all but empty, WHY??? The governor forced assisted living and nursing homes to accept the infected knowing they would infect everyone. The staff were not prepared for this, no masks, no gowns, no face shields. It is time we look into this and hold those responsible

Maybe Chicom $$$ control Italian politicians, the same way drug cartel $$$ control Mexican politicians...

This thinking is like going into the barn and expecting every stall to contain a thoroughbred. If it didn’t happen this way, only older people would be alive. It’s how nature works and has since the beginning of time. And the only thing you have to do after birth is die. Everything else is recreation.

rwood

True to a certain degree, but some nursing homes are just plain bad. That is why a lot of adult children move their aged parents from one they determine is bad to one that isn’t.

Jailing of Italian seismologists leaves scientific community in shock

BYLINE: Scientists say Italian court has set dangerous precedent that may affect volcanologists observing Mount Vesuvius

Lizzy Davies
Tue 23 Oct 2012

One was a flamboyant Tuscan astronomer hailed by some as the father of modern science; the other is a one-time BBC weatherman from Eastbourne. In ordinary times Galileo Galilei and Michael Fish may have little in common, but since Monday they have become opposing reference points for a scientific community in shock. For while the forecaster’s infamous dismissal of the great storm of 1987 brought him derision by the bucketload, it certainly never threatened him with six years in prison. The multiple manslaughter convictions on Monday of six Italian seismologists (and a government official), on the other hand, remind many of a time when scientists were treated in a less enlightened manner. “It’s almost like we’re back to the days of the Inquisition,” said one expert, who did not want to be named.

Around the world, scientists have reacted with horror to the decision by an Italian judge to sentence the seismologists to six years in jail for having given false assurances to the public before an earthquake hit the historic town of L’Aquila in 2009. They struggle to think of an example from recent history in which their peers have been treated in a manner considered to be so manifestly unfair. In his Encyclopedia of Hurricanes, Typhoons, and Cyclones, David Longshore writes that, in the 1960s, four Taiwanese meteorologists who failed to predict the landfall of a deadly typhoon were arrested and charged with “dereliction of duty”. Regarded as scapegoats for a storm that claimed 330 lives, he writes, the forecasters were eventually released.

Aside from that, there is little historical precedent for the punishment meted out to the seven members of Italy’s National Commission for the Forecast and Prevention of Major Risks, which they are appealing. Judge Marco Billi’s ruling has provoked stupefaction and warnings of a dangerous example having been set in Italy for scientists involved in hazard prediction. “Next time there’s a seismic crisis and they convene a panel to advise on what best to do, who is going to be willing to go on that panel if they face six years in jail if they get it wrong?” said David Rothery, a senior lecturer in earth sciences at the Open University.

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LINK: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2012/oct/23/jailing-italian-seismologists-scientific-community

Our approach to deal with this plague was highly influenced by the death and sickness due to the CCWV ( Chinese Communist Wuhan Virus) reports coming out of Italy.

Most Americans including this one were not aware that that the Italian socialist government had actually allowed the Chinese communists to purchase thus remove Italian ownership of a large segment of their fashion industry producers. Then replace the Italians working at those companies taken over by the Chinese and have them manned by thousands of Chinese nationals allowed to be brought in to work there.

When that CCWV breakout occurred in Wuhan the politburo closed off Wuhan but did not warn the Italian Socialist government or the Pope with whom the Chinese government had good relations with but certainly violated when the socialists should have been informed and allowed to deny those Chinese workers travel to and from China particularly for their New Year while this was occurring. Which Trump did with the exception of only allowing American citizens returning..

Those statistics being reported always indicated the casualties were aged Italians no focus was permitted on China or even if the victims were from China and the emphasis was on the speed of contagion. While doing so also ignored the direct connection those producers have with the Chinese Communist government which owns them.

Every time an American looked at an item for where it was made in it came from China. Now China’s reliance making everything was being threatened by a change in leadership in America which was a major consumer of those products. When Americans hailed their leaders decision to make many of them in their country US. Their politburo worried.

Worse yet opponents to the Chinese regime in power had its citizens protesting its policies , as in Hong Kong, since that change in American leadership wave the American flag and present his name when doing so. All of which presented those in power the need to destroy that leader Donald Trump.

Would a runaway plague created by a nation which could threaten populations of an enemy cause them to react by demanding extreme restriction of movement by its population to prevent its spread ? Thus wind up fragmenting its economy and create defeat for that leader’s upcoming election.

To stop the return of manufacturing of products back to the US that went to China. China backers here who’s family members are making millions from China through their political connections will be hit hard are also claiming that Trump’s alleged stock ownership in a quinine pills maker claim its a controlling interest in a product to be totally ineffective and when used requires a severe restriction of movement when near a possible carrier known as a shutdown because of its rapid transmission .

I only know the medical capacity in Italy is fair, if that good concerning geriatric patients. Geriatrics in Italy in the more recent years gave scanty attention to the acute care of elderly people by concentrating its interests mainly on long-term care with special attention to nursing homes. They went to where the money was.

It’s one of the problem areas of universal care. And you can’t play the game without a field to do so as the lack of funding capacity in a high volume situation was far more than they could afford. So they may talk a good game, but the first pitch went to the screen and was called, “just a bit outside.”

rwood