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Liars lie. It's what they do.
1 posted on 04/09/2020 4:20:03 AM PDT by CheshireTheCat
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To: CheshireTheCat

Bump for later


2 posted on 04/09/2020 4:23:58 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (AOC the bartender would have had to work on the second floor at Miss KittyÂ’s saloon...)
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Wow. This is everything. Great news about CV, bad news about the Swamp.

Back to work NOW.


3 posted on 04/09/2020 4:35:57 AM PDT by Eccl 10:2 (Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding" don't)
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To: CheshireTheCat

As the fog is lifting we are seeing what is and what was really going on


4 posted on 04/09/2020 4:36:14 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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The question now is whether these lies by the DeepStaters in the CDC and in Demonicrat-controlled states were done for the purpose of weakening the Bill of Rights and for wrecking the economy that President Trump had built up for the last 3 and a half years.


5 posted on 04/09/2020 4:37:53 AM PDT by Carl Vehse
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“The CDC Confesses to Lying”

I have no doubt they are liars...but did they actually confess to it?


6 posted on 04/09/2020 4:39:09 AM PDT by Leep (It's another day in stir.)
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To: CheshireTheCat
learning that the highly respected, world-class Centers for Disease Control and Prevention

got a good laugh out of that one right there

8 posted on 04/09/2020 4:54:23 AM PDT by eartick (Stupidity is expecting the government that broke itself to go out and fix itself. Texan for TEXIT!)
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This article is full of misinformation, which is really distressing, considering that the American Thinker is generally held to be a conservative publication and therefore should be more adherent to the truth and facts.

Lets take this example:

First, experts told us 2.2 million Americans would die. Then the number fell off a cliff, plunging down to around 200,000.

As of April 8, the number of those expected to die from the disease by August 4 was down to 60,000, or roughly a very nasty flu season. The new figure comes from the influential model produced by the University of Washington that the White House regularly cites.

Has social-distancing, wearing face masks, hosing down packages with bleach, using hand sanitizer that is at least 60 percent alcohol, and washing hands with soap and water for a minimum of 20 seconds helped bring the grim worst-case-scenario body count down?

Probably, I’m guessing, but it’s hard to know for sure.

This ranks right up there with liberals bemoaning the fact that the number of criminals locked up in prison is at an all time high, even though crime rates are down. Huh?

Of course taking measures to kill the virus results in lower numbers of infections. That is basic microbiology 101. Of course the CDC revises numbers downward to reflect the effectiveness of social distance policies. Do you really expect the numbers projected on the assumption that nothing will be done to stop the spread to be the same as the projections based on the assumption of high compliance with social distancing recommendations/orders?

And another thing: this artificial concept of "dying with Covid-19" needs to be ditched. Someone who has been managing diabetes for years and suddenly dies after contracting Covid-19 is dying because of Covid-19. Same for other chronic conditions: obesity, heart disease, asthma, immune problems, etc. The real take-home message is that if you suffer from a chronic condition, you need to be extra careful not to contract Covid-19.

Don't fall for propaganda designed to make you think that Covid-19 is not serious. I suspect that propaganda originates with the extinct humanity movement. Much like those behind the anti-vaxxer movement want more kids to get deadly childhood illnesses, they embrace anything that might increase the number of deaths. They are motivated by their belief that there are too many people.

10 posted on 04/09/2020 4:59:11 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org)
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From the article:

As of April 8, the number of those expected to die from the disease by August 4 was down to 60,000, or roughly a very nasty flu season. The new figure comes from the influential model produced by the University of Washington that the White House regularly cites.

I get the premise, but the same question can be asked about the 60,000 people who die from ordinary influenza in very nasty flu season: How many of those people died "with" influenza, as to influenza being the "cause" of death.

In my opinion, the critical inquiry should be whether the person would have died at that time, but not for contracting the Chinese Wuhan Flu (CWF). For example, I have two known risk conditions for CWF (hypertension and diabetes), which I control with meds, exercise, diet, and a healthy lifestyle. Indeed, I haven't missed a day from work because of sickness since I contracted the H1N1 influenza in 2009. If I contact CWF and die, did I die with the CWF or from the CWF? Clearly, I would have died from the CWF because, but not for the flu, I would, with near certainty, still be alive despite the underlying health conditions.

11 posted on 04/09/2020 4:59:33 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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Liars lie.
The point of the article, IMHO, is that calling the death of someone with cover "because of covid" is just easy.

Why do the work of saying, “if this guy hadn’t had hypertension, diabetes, and COPD he woulda survived the covid infection?” There is, effectively, a simple box you can check - “covid” instead of futzing around in gray areas. Why would you do the latter?

‘Course it is also true that there are political implications.

A few years ago my brother died of a lung infection. It was interesting - and very arguable - that the doc listed the cause of death as an accident which occurred many decades ago! Why? Because absent that accident, my brother would have been very unlikely to have even gotten that lung infection. You could of course argue that that was political - his death showing up as caused by a football injury - but it was also in a very real sense true.

Of course it’s also possible that, absent that long-ago injury, he could have been in Vietnam - and died there much earlier . . .

But we all know that ultimately the real cause of death is being born in the first place.


12 posted on 04/09/2020 5:00:20 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (Socialism is cynicism directed towards society and - correspondingly - naivete towards government.)
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CDC heads must roll.


19 posted on 04/09/2020 5:56:26 AM PDT by tennmountainman (eThe Liberals Are Baby Killers)
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There are plenty of people out here who could use a job..


20 posted on 04/09/2020 6:06:56 AM PDT by vigilante2 (Make liberals cry again)
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The relief act passed,the act passing out 100 billion dollars to hospitals and”other entities”, allocates the dollars by the number of Covid-19 deaths,so labeling deaths attributed to the virus pays big bucks


23 posted on 04/09/2020 6:22:16 AM PDT by ballplayer (By)
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Pandemic?

Worldometer counts 131000+ deaths globally from 2019-2020 seasonal flu and 88000 deaths globally from COVID-19 AND from news reports the COVID death count has been padded?

Which one was the pandemic? Was there a pandemic. Remember the WHO declared the pandemic. The same WHO that said there was nothing to worry about from Wuhan?

Seems to me there are a whole lot of Chinese pandemic products being offered for sale lately (surgical masks, face shields, hand sanitizers, etc) within just a few short weeks of the pandemic being declared.

Interesting!

25 posted on 04/09/2020 6:36:50 AM PDT by eeriegeno
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Follow the money:

Peter Korman @pjkorman
https://twitter.com/pjkorman/status/1248221597661609984?s=20
Here is information that there is a large financial incentive for hospitals to use Covid-19 as the cause of death:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EVKS7L8UwAE_WpB?format=jpg&name=900x900

Peter Korman @pjkorman
Here are the specific guidelines regarding Covid-19 and reporting mortality issued by the CDC:
https://cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss


26 posted on 04/09/2020 6:44:40 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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"COVID-19 should be reported on the death certificate for all decedents where the disease caused or is assumed to have caused or contributed to death." (emphasis by CDC: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/coronavirus/Alert-2-New-ICD-code-introduced-for-COVID-19-deaths.pdf) .
27 posted on 04/09/2020 6:45:25 AM PDT by daniel1212 ( Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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The CDC Confesses to Lying About COVID-19 Death Numbers

Interesting that the word 'confess' is never again used in the article.

Certified click bait.

30 posted on 04/09/2020 7:14:01 AM PDT by Arones (When Leftists are in a minority, then they look for other ways to win.)
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To: CheshireTheCat

Please repost this tomorrow.


34 posted on 04/09/2020 11:28:00 AM PDT by Norski
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