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What the Coronavirus Curve Teaches Us About Climate Change
Politico ^ | 3-26-2020 | Howard Kunreuther and Paul Slovic

Posted on 03/31/2020 5:50:25 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot

Humans don’t easily grasp the concept of exponential growth, but it’s exactly why coronavirus has gotten so hard to manage—and why climate change could too. The coronavirus pandemic—sadly—has introduced or reintroduced many people to the concept of an exponential curve, in which a quantity grows at an increasing rate over time, as the number of people contracting the virus currently is doing. It is this curve that so many of us are trying to “flatten” through social distancing and other mitigating measures, small and large.

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It’s also how climate change works. And if there’s any silver lining in this mess, it’s that the coronavirus pandemic is teaching us a valuable lesson about the perils of ignoring destructive processes—and perhaps even larger, longer-term disasters—that increase exponentially.

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Taking a lesson from our flat-footed response to the coronavirus pandemic, we can no longer delay aggressive actions to halt and reverse what otherwise will be inevitable pandemic-like crises arising from climate change. Already, tipping points have been reached: Human populations and cultures are being devastated, and many species are becoming extinct.

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To: SanchoP

It’s the Chewbacca Defense.


21 posted on 03/31/2020 6:18:27 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 ("SHUT UP!" he explained.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Pollutico is garbage.


22 posted on 03/31/2020 6:19:20 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Eleutheria5

Why am I so confused? Perhaps it’s because I’ll be 77 in two months. sheesh!


23 posted on 03/31/2020 6:23:48 AM PDT by V V Camp Enari 67-68 (Viet Vet)
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To: Sacajaweau
That's what happens every flu season (I'm not a flu bro, bro). But then people take precautions (usually tepid ones except for this year, which is why flu cases are dropping now) and the resistance portion of the logistic curve kicks in. Or, a natural resistance kicks in. Nature has balance.

My point is that the hysterics think we're all gonna die if we don't do this or that. That's not true...something usually kicks in to stop the lilys. The question is whether or not vaporizing the service economy was worth it.

24 posted on 03/31/2020 6:24:32 AM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: DoodleBob

The real truth is, we are all going to die, no matter what precautions we take. Sooner or later, preferably later.


25 posted on 03/31/2020 6:26:11 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 ("SHUT UP!" he explained.)
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To: V V Camp Enari 67-68

Joe? Shouldn’t you be working on your campaign?


26 posted on 03/31/2020 6:27:04 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 ("SHUT UP!" he explained.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Okay. Where are the palm trees and alligators in Minnesota? And we were supposed to have all the coastlines under 20 ft of water by 2015. NOT!


27 posted on 03/31/2020 6:27:18 AM PDT by HighSierra5
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To: HighSierra5

Those are in the Arkansas Ozarks. Don’t you know nothing?


28 posted on 03/31/2020 6:53:42 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 ("SHUT UP!" he explained.)
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To: Sir Napsalot
...the concept of exponential growth... ...it’s exactly why coronavirus has gotten so hard to manage—and why climate change could too.

Yeah, that's science for sure! Ya grabs an apple, see; then ya grabs an orange; then ya tells the audience to imagine that the one, is the other. Or at the very least, it conceivably COULD be.

29 posted on 03/31/2020 7:02:47 AM PDT by Migraine
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To: Migraine

Or, “When you are a hammer, everything looks like a nail.”


30 posted on 03/31/2020 7:03:26 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Sir Napsalot
People are actually moving into harm’s way, not realizing the potential for severe damage they might suffer in the coming years due to climate change.

Or they might be like obummer and not believe it.

31 posted on 03/31/2020 7:21:11 AM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: Eleutheria5

Well, yea...the logistic function isn’t asymptotic.


32 posted on 03/31/2020 7:21:31 AM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: FreedomPoster

FreedomPoster wrote: “Go to CDC.gov and search for “Climate change”. Then Transgender. Then Diversity. Look at the number of hits you get. Gain some understanding why the CDC and the national health establishment was so ill-prepared for a pandemic, which is a primary reason for them to exist. Those other things? Not so much in my mind. Pure SJW political pandering and electioneering using the public’s money.”

You left out HIV. When AIDS first came on the scene, CDC hyped the unfounded dangers of spread into the heterosexual population.

Someone who taught technical writing told me that this was mostly propaganda because those in his CDC class told him that all grant (most worked on grants) funds were contingent upon showing an AIDS linkage, ie, if you wanted to research tooth decay then you had to show how it caused AIDS. These students told him this was always true at CDC.

CDC is driven more by politics than by science.


33 posted on 03/31/2020 7:24:15 AM PDT by DugwayDuke ("A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest")
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To: Ann Archy

Trust me, the eco wankers do NOT want the alternative to their perceived warming crap. And, as far as some climageddonists touting the cleansing of the erf since the great covid slow/shut down...... If “it” cleaned so much stuff up in, what, 2 or 3 weeks, how bad was “it” really? Have any of these assclowns looked at some abandoned sites anywhere? Nature doesn’t waste a lot of time reclaiming things. Fookin’ idjits! Stay well.


34 posted on 03/31/2020 7:38:33 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: mjp

Or the cynics in me -

People ‘like obummer’ want other dummies to believe that garbage and move out of their way, so they themselves could scoop up property cheap.


35 posted on 03/31/2020 7:38:42 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = USSR; Journ0List + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey)
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To: Sir Napsalot
So, Earth will pass it to the moon and the combination will pass Globull warming to the other planets?

Funny how someone is stupid enough to publish this article as the warmer Summer months are being eagerly anticipated a a potential halt to the virus...

36 posted on 03/31/2020 7:43:12 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: Sir Napsalot
A curve is exponential if there's something in the system that feeds itself. I fail to see how global warming is going to create more global warming. In fact, even if it does exist, which is doubtful, it would seem to be self-correcting, since higher temperatures spur more plant growth, and more plants reduce Boogieman gasses, which we're told are responsible for global warming.

So nice try, Herr Goebbels. But this is one Big Lie that ain't selling.

37 posted on 03/31/2020 7:50:01 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: Sir Napsalot

I like the analogy. Exponential growth can be applied to anything. In fact, I believe that the growth of bullsh*t is exponential as well. Soon, we will be covered over from the networks and cable. That is really scary, because BS and Global Warming-cooling (Climate change in other words) are both real and could get out of hand....They have both been with us for millenia.


38 posted on 03/31/2020 9:06:58 AM PDT by richardtavor
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
some 'climate' search results:

39 posted on 03/31/2020 9:17:36 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Sir Napsalot
It’s also how climate change works.
No, it is not how climate change works. Climate change is cyclical and has always been cyclical.
40 posted on 03/31/2020 11:13:44 AM PDT by Hiddigeigei ("Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish," said Dionysus - Euripides)
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