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THE NUMBERS JUST DON'T ADD UP: Nearly 500,000 Went to Hospital in 2018-19 Flu Season But Today There Are Not Enough Hospital Beds for Coronavirus Patients?
Gateway Pundit ^

Posted on 03/27/2020 9:43:32 AM PDT by MNDude

THE NUMBERS JUST DON'T ADD UP: Nearly 500,000 Went to Hospital in 2018-19 Flu Season But Today There Are Not Enough Hospital Beds for Coronavirus Patients?

The MSM and Democrats claim there are not enough hospital beds for the current 85,000 people identified with the coronavirus, many of whom will never even enter a hospital due to their relatively minor condition. Also, in 2018-19 there were plenty of beds for the nearly 500,000 patients that spent time in hospitals, due to the flu.

Via the CDC – there were 490,000 hospitalizations during the 2018-2019 flu season.

Really, What is going on? The data just don’t add up.

And yet the media want you to believe the US will run out of hospital beds during the coronavirus.

The data to date show that most individuals with the coronavirus suffer from very mild conditions. The panic-driven Washington Post even reported that 82% of these individuals with the coronavirus suffer from mild conditions.

Assuming the remaining require hospitalization (which is unlikely but conservative), then only 15,300 people currently require hospitalizations across the US. Of course this too is conservative because many of these cases in the US are already recovered and the individuals no longer suffer from the virus from China.

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KEYWORDS: chat; chinesevirus; coronavirus; covid19; wuhanvirus
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To: MNDude

It’s a speed thing. 500,000 people spread out over 6 months or 500,000 all at once.


21 posted on 03/27/2020 10:25:53 AM PDT by discostu (I know that's a bummer baby, but it's got precious little to do with me)
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To: Rennes Templar

Statiscally expected over 200k deaths per month in a 327 million population. 1500 die of the latest killer. What about the others? Bye. Bye American pie.
There is an offer of citizenship in a place where death has been defeated. Check Revalation 3:20 or John 14. Blend it with Romans 6 and 10. Apply diligently with Ephesians 2:8-9. Happy Resurrection.


22 posted on 03/27/2020 10:28:51 AM PDT by KDF48 (Redeemed by Christ.)
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To: Covenantor

The thing I noticed about the hospital in NYC that was on Tucker was they had moved all non virus out of the hospital. What that told me was that they had given up on cleaning the rooms between patients or even trying to keep the hallways clean and isolate each room. The entire hospital is considered “contaminated” and the workers have to gown up like it was scuba and the hospital was underwater. Amazing. So the # of beds is irrelevant. The rate limiting factor is how many patients an hour can they handle. So far it sound like they are keeping up but stressed. I read NYC figures they won’t be at peak stress for three more weeks. That may be overstating it. If you go to worldometers, click USA, go to the bottom # new deaths per day. The “hockey stick” (as I read someone refer to it) is at the tip. Leveling off, should start to decrease in a few days and slowly drift down.


23 posted on 03/27/2020 10:31:00 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: MNDude

The shortage is because these cases are coming in on top of the others.

And most beds are occupied with “regular” patients.

The other issue is they are in those beds and on the vents 10-14 days on average. In a normal situation that bed would turn over at least twice, probably 3 times.

No hospital is going to build out for a once in an every Fifty year epidemic.

So, it is a bed staffing / Capacity /ICU issue.

Plus, every day admissions occur.


24 posted on 03/27/2020 10:36:50 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: nevermorelenore

I was in an ER for several hours on Sunday.

The place had the air of a locker room before “the big game.” Or what I would imagine a hospital would look like before a battle.

It was eerie.


25 posted on 03/27/2020 10:39:13 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Excellent point on te treatment. Another note is the Covid seems to strike regions more concurrently than the flu. If the flu hit an area in 1 v 6 months, you might see the.same situation. It’s more a case of not enough beds/vents all at once.


26 posted on 03/27/2020 10:58:04 AM PDT by Moonlighter
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To: wastoute

Wastoute,
Thanks for all your posts over the last several days. From the posts I’m getting a reasonable layman’s understanding of the data and the issues. That is helping me process what I am seeing.

I am an expat living in another country and this is helping me evaluate (at least a little) where we may be on the roller coaster. Thanks.


27 posted on 03/27/2020 10:59:58 AM PDT by Cap Huff (1776 - Washington fought for us. Since 2016 Washington has fought against us . . .)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Did VA do that all based on that faulty Imperial College forecast?


28 posted on 03/27/2020 11:04:33 AM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: chuckee

Even though the NYC area has more than 50% of the cases no way will they need 40,000 ventilators Cuomo keeps whining about, especially now when their cases are levelling of
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Where did you see that? The leveling off part.


29 posted on 03/27/2020 11:07:25 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (Ted, you finally endorsed.)
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To: MNDude

I’m thinking the term hospitalizations includes mostly outpatient visits to the emergency department or to some other clinic within the system like infectious diseases, radiology, or the blood lab. It doesn’t refer only to inpatient ICU beds.


30 posted on 03/27/2020 11:08:49 AM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: MNDude

We are now in the time. Day 12 out of 15 on the presidential 15 day order

We’re now getting to the point where all of the liars , these scare mongers ; the hypocrites and the liberals who want to impose fascism !

Theyre going to be exposed to the public

yes the numbers don’t add up they don’t even come close to adding up

But how will the media respond?

They’ll pivot immediately and Jen up some do impeachment on this president that he didn’t react quickly enough which is ridiculous on its face

The media in this country are beyond scum bags beyond traitors and beyond reprobates


31 posted on 03/27/2020 11:16:25 AM PDT by Truthoverpower (The guv mint you get is the Trump winning express !)
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To: butlerweave

We all know how good the media is at math, lol! I remember trying to tutor some beginning algebra students when I was in advanced Math classes. They’re probably journalists or teachers now!


32 posted on 03/27/2020 11:18:18 AM PDT by allwrong57
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To: MNDude

Back then a lot of the “hospitals” set up were tents or you were even in the open. Your treatment was you got a cot, although there were nurses present to help give liquids, etc., you basically lived or died. No comparison with today. If you google you can see all sorts of photos of that.


33 posted on 03/27/2020 11:25:50 AM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: Cap Huff

Your’e welcome. I’m glad someone is finding it useful. I would probably be useless in a hospital since I haven’t been in one for a decade but I did live in hospitals for over a decade. I figured it out once, I spent over a thousand nights on call.


34 posted on 03/27/2020 11:30:15 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: RedMonqey

But if you remove conspiracy you remove Gateway Pundit’s reason for existence.


35 posted on 03/27/2020 11:34:17 AM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: InterceptPoint

Go to worldometers click USA, go to the bottom. # new deaths. Notice the last three days have been plus or minus twenty instead of doubling every two or three days. # new deaths is some ten days behind # new cases. So we went into recovery phase Monday a week ago, now we are on the glide slope down.


36 posted on 03/27/2020 11:34:24 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: MNDude

This has to be looked at by state, available hospital beds and people with the virus. Also, we need to look at the concentration of those infected by dates and that needs to be correlated to the hospital records.


37 posted on 03/27/2020 11:34:55 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Operation Chaos is in play. Repeat, Operation Chaos is in play)
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To: MNDude

I work in a community type hospital....they are not doing elective surgery and there are plenty of beds and staff....hospital is losing tons of money just so we can be “prepared” for whatever monster the media has predicted....


38 posted on 03/27/2020 11:44:41 AM PDT by cherry
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To: xkaydet65


"But if you remove conspiracy you remove Gateway Pundit’s reason for existence."

True that. Used to think only liberals and a quite a few libertarians believed in wackadoodle conspiracy theories. Since becoming a member of FR(not blaming Free Republic)I've been exposed to a whole new subset of 'conservatives' that fall for the most inane conspiracies I'd thought I woke up on DU.
39 posted on 03/27/2020 12:21:05 PM PDT by RedMonqey
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To: MNDude

Weeks vs MONTHS


40 posted on 03/27/2020 12:28:54 PM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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