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From a “democratic hoax” to a “state of emergency” in one week People need to relax a bit!
1 posted on 03/13/2020 3:26:54 PM PDT by USA Conservative
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Already out of date...
2,269 cases and 48 fatalities in the USA.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries


2 posted on 03/13/2020 3:28:59 PM PDT by Drago
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Shut MSNBC, CNN down for two weeks.

End the panic.


3 posted on 03/13/2020 3:29:18 PM PDT by NoLibZone (I survived :ColdWar ,Hong Kong Flu ,HIV AIDS, SARS, Ebola, ZIKA, MERS, H1N1 Swin Flu, AvianFlu)
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"There were 144 children who died from the flu this season."

so many more children died from the flu and we didn't have mass hysteria over it?....the old more important?

4 posted on 03/13/2020 3:30:10 PM PDT by cherry
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Feel free to go shake hands with someone who has COVID-19 to prove to everyone else how silly and paranoid they are!

That’ll show ‘em!!!


6 posted on 03/13/2020 3:32:31 PM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism.)
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comparing apples to oranges.

the short time of the corena virus with the long time of a season of a different virus.


9 posted on 03/13/2020 3:36:30 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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Practice dress rehursal for unknown and may not happen events ??? Best guess ....


10 posted on 03/13/2020 3:37:01 PM PDT by no-to-illegals ( Liberals, leftists, Rinos, moslems, illegals, lamestream media. All want America to fail and die)
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It’s not in the MSM-LIB news media’s scenario for exciting hysterical news.


11 posted on 03/13/2020 3:37:44 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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President Trump has declared war on this pandemic and people are STILL doing flu bro stories??


17 posted on 03/13/2020 3:41:08 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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Yeah but the flu is familiar to people and not as mysterious as the Coronavirus so the commies would have a tougher time scaring people and blaming it on Trump so he doesn’t get reelected because if he gets reelected less people will be subservient to democrap commie party.


19 posted on 03/13/2020 3:42:15 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (As long as Hillary Clinton remains free equal justice under the law will never exist in the USA)
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There have been 222,000 confirmed flu cases in the US this season. And there have been 22,000 flu deaths ...

Using those figures, influenza has a 10% fatality rate. 10% confirmed positive and hospitalized die.

Lots of confusion outside the industry, on the way the medical industry expresses statistics.

21 posted on 03/13/2020 3:46:23 PM PDT by Cboldt
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With a shortage of test kits we have no idea how many Americans have caught this virus. If the number of people with COVID-19 is quite high that means the kill rate is quite low.


25 posted on 03/13/2020 3:50:34 PM PDT by nagant
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The numbers are way off. There are many more than 220,000 flu cases. the death rate is not 10%


26 posted on 03/13/2020 3:51:44 PM PDT by Mom MD
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Hey! How dare ya! Goes against the narrative so beloved by some FReepers.


27 posted on 03/13/2020 3:52:01 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Prayers for Rush)
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Testing people that had symptoms....4% had COVID-19 and 96% had flu or a cold. From one of the Docs at the President’s press conference.


29 posted on 03/13/2020 3:53:46 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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I’d still like to find out how many Americans lost their lives at the hands of illegal aliens during the same period that 48 have died of the coronavirus. My bet is that it is at least twice as many, yet no hysteria from the media.


33 posted on 03/13/2020 3:55:56 PM PDT by euram
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I’m not sure where the author is getting his numbers from, because the CDC statistics for the current seasonal flu I just looked at far different. Aside from that, one mistake that many commentators make is to compare an entire flu season to the mere toe of the Corona virus curve. For instance, the CDC statistics for the current flu season began October 1 and run through March 7. The Corona virus is at least as infectious as the regular flu with an infection rate that increases exponentially. We are barely one month into the Corona virus curve, and we can expect as many Corona virus cases in five months from now as have developed from the regular flu in the past five months. The scary part is when you compare the fatality rate of the regular flu with the fatality rate of the fewer Corona virus cases we have to this point. It is then clear that the Corona virus is many times more deadly, perhaps ten times more deadly, that the ordinary flu. If we assume a similar number of Corona virus cases in the five months from now, as we have had regular flu cases from October to now, we can foresee over two-hundred thousand deaths, which is similar to the toll taken here by the Spanish flu in1918.


37 posted on 03/13/2020 4:03:49 PM PDT by PUGACHEV
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That’s how these things work. The numbers are small at the beginning because so few have been exposed to the bug. The flu comparison is misleading because everyone in the population has already been exposed to flu viruses and is repeatedly exposed to them through his entire life. That is what is meant when people say the flu is endemic. Whereas the covid-19 bug is brand new to humanity* and only a minuscule number of people have been exposed relative to the whole. The numbers will rise to a point no one foresaw a couple of months ago. That is the meaning of the Italian death toll in recent days.

The health care system will be overrun in the first month or so of an epidemic. That is why China had a surge of deaths during that period. Countries don’t maintain large amounts of slack capacity in their health care systems, because that slack costs massive amounts of money, due to expensive facilities, equipment and staff. Once the scale of the epidemic becomes apparent, the government spends massively to meet the need for expanded emergency care. As patients start getting treated instead of turned away, the number of deaths starts to decline.

Italy is at the stage where they’re turning away non-virus related patients who are accident or stroke victims. And they’re turning away covid-19 patients over 65 with underlying health conditions. Not a real surprise that their death rates are high. Once newly appropriated emergency funds course through the Italian health care system, and new ICU beds become available to completely fill the need caused by this pandemic, the daily count of covid-19 deaths should start to fall. But that might take a month from now to fully play out, if the Chinese example is anything to go by.

What the Italian quarantine measures are attempting to do is slow the rate of infection to minimize the number of new infections while the Italian medical system is catching up to what the new funding provides for, in terms of ICU capacity. New facilities can be requisitioned and equipment can be manufactured quickly. Doctors and nurses don’t materialize out of thin air. It would not surprise me if cash bounties were posted for hiring trained personnel from other countries as well as for retired personnel to come back to work. Medical and nursing students might be drafted to help in order to ease the shortage of trained personnel. Half-trained but carefully filtered through a battery of tough admissions exams is better than untrained:

http://www.pulsetoday.co.uk/clinical/clinical-specialties/infectious-diseases/government-is-considering-using-medical-students-to-help-in-coronavirus-outbreak/20040272.article

* Whether the bug is new to bats is a different question, but this may not matter, from the bats’ perspective - it’s like water rolling off a duck’s back. Apparently, bats have sort of unique immune systems due to the filthy conditions that they live in (caves that are knee deep in shit). Rather than fighting off viruses their immune system sort of calls a truce with them. Otherwise they would exhaust themselves in eternal battle.


46 posted on 03/13/2020 4:15:25 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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The US population has grown by over 180,000 people since the first COVID-19 case was confirmed here.

Not sure what it has to do with anything, but I heard someone say it. lol


48 posted on 03/13/2020 4:20:20 PM PDT by trublu
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We know how to treat the common flu. We do not know how to treat the Coronavirus. That is a rather significant difference.


50 posted on 03/13/2020 4:29:05 PM PDT by Widget Jr
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Glad I’m not the only one who sees the facts. Couldn’t unseat Trump/turn America’s conservative agenda with floosy whatever her name is, Russian thing...nope couldn’t impeach him, so we invent an apocalypse. Not to make it Trump’s fault, but there has to be a way to destroy the good economy he brought forth. The liberals as so wicked there are no words.....


51 posted on 03/13/2020 4:29:55 PM PDT by sevinufnine
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