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1 posted on 11/22/2019 12:56:48 PM PST by Mr. K
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I told my wife that 2 weeks ago.

They’ll declare victory & hope everyone forgets their fiasco.


2 posted on 11/22/2019 12:58:26 PM PST by sevlex
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They are stuck.....

They don’t vote for it, those in deep blue districts get primaried...

They do, those everywhere else get clobbered everywhere else....

They’ll vote for it.... they knew they had nothing from the start... they just live in their echo chamber so much that they figured the MSM would be able to carry their empty bucket for them...

Now they are stuck....


4 posted on 11/22/2019 1:00:58 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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Not holding a vote at all would be logical, but whoever accused the j@ck@$$ party at practicing logic? Their base will be livid. Trump needs impeachment on his record, they think.

After all, didn't Trump's own ambassador state that he assumed there was 'quid pro quo'? Never mind the subsequent clarifications and retractions.

5 posted on 11/22/2019 1:02:11 PM PST by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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Schiffty is between a rock and a hard place.

The squeeze is on and his eyes are popping right out of his head.

President Trump has been trolling Schiff all day: “ I’d like a trial...” as he said on Fox News.


7 posted on 11/22/2019 1:04:18 PM PST by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism)http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obam_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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Maybe they will choose to censure the President as a way to save face, but not go all the way to impeach.


8 posted on 11/22/2019 1:04:20 PM PST by RepublicanJoe
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If Pelosi decides to hold a vote, there will be a revolt from the Dems that reside in Trump Won Districts. She won’t even be able to force a party-line vote. It would be a disaster for her Speakership.

On the other hand, if she decides to NOT HOLD A VOTE, the only PO’d people will be their nutty base, whom they can tell that they held impeachment hearings and could not get a vote to pass.

That seems like the only likelihood. Anything else would be political suicide.....................


11 posted on 11/22/2019 1:08:27 PM PST by Red Badger (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain...................)
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AND BACKDATED THE COMPLAINT!


15 posted on 11/22/2019 1:09:56 PM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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Funny, I was thinking the same thing. The whole thing will just fizzle out like a bad fart.


18 posted on 11/22/2019 1:11:45 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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You heard it here first...


No, I wrote the same thing earlier today.


19 posted on 11/22/2019 1:12:19 PM PST by CIB-173RDABN (I am not an expert in anything, and my opinion is just that, an opinion. I may be wrong.)
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Disagree. They hold a Vote and convict.

Even if it dies in the Senate the Rats have a Year to pronounce that POTUS Trump was Impeached (but not convicted) and cannot be Reelected.

The compliant DNC Media will have an entire year to change hearts and Minds...

They will use this to attack anything POTUS Trump does, especially when it comes to Nominating Judges, especially if RBG kicks the bucket.

I can hear it now, you can’t let an Impeached POTUS pick Judges! That would undermine the Rule of Law for Generations to come!

I’ll just hope I’m wrong and leave it at that.


21 posted on 11/22/2019 1:16:45 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Kill a Commie for your Mommy.)
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They will vote to impeach and take the risk of losing seats.
After all they have the MSM on their side.


25 posted on 11/22/2019 1:25:45 PM PST by tennmountainman (The Liberals Are Baby Killers)
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They’ll vote and it will pass.


28 posted on 11/22/2019 1:28:42 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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I don’t think they have to votes for it. They dug a deep hole, that is their only way out. They got their talking points out to the press.

The hold purpose was to set up a reason to state coming reports are retributions. That is their defense.


32 posted on 11/22/2019 1:31:30 PM PST by DEPcom
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Dont forget horowitz comes put 12/9 more less oxygen more bad news i jave been saying the same thing


33 posted on 11/22/2019 1:34:31 PM PST by genghis
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The House won’t have a vote. They are simply trying to damage President Trump. Many Dems in Trump districts don’t want to be on record to remove him.

Trump is not a winner in any of this.


35 posted on 11/22/2019 1:36:03 PM PST by cornfedcowboy
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While I agree that it would be a disaster for the democrats if this goes to the Senate

I disagree that they won’t vote. If they don’t vote, after hyping this up for three years, their base will be beyond furious.

I think that the only way that they can get out of this hole they dug is to have a vote, but to rig it so that the vote to impeach fails. This would be done by having all the red and purple state democrats vote against it.


36 posted on 11/22/2019 1:36:03 PM PST by kidd
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Prediction: Dems Never Even Hold A Vote.

I think just the opposite. With articles of impeachment, the Dem House will impeach. Subsequently, the Senate will not convict. The Dems and their media allies will then accuse and convict every Republican Senator and House member of protecting a "corrupt and obviously guilty President." The onslaught will be predictable and it will continue up to the 2020 election.

"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it." - Joseph Goebbels quote, which is fully endorsed by the Democrat party.

40 posted on 11/22/2019 1:41:42 PM PST by JesusIsLord
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I’m kinda agreeing with you. I think they’ll “compromise” with House Democrat “moderates” by passing a censure resolution.

Worst possible political outcome (for Dems): Impeachment passes, but with no Republicans voting “yes.” Historical narrative will be unavoidable: vote was hyper-partisan, especially if there are several Democrat defections. Senate takes up the measure, and humiliates House Dems.

Next worse outcome: Impeachment fails.

Either is horrible news.


43 posted on 11/22/2019 1:45:09 PM PST by dangus
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Local radio talk guy had a constitutional law guest on his show who claimed the Dems should be looking for a way out of this now. There isn’t one plausable scenario which would present an outcome that favors them.

Asked why he thinks they went down this road, he could only speculate that this serves no purpose than to be able to say Trump was put through the “impeachment process”.

(Personally....I’m dumb founded the media is acting the way they are. There is too much that can be negated. I know they are bias, but this is a complete wholesale sellout.)


45 posted on 11/22/2019 1:48:24 PM PST by Nifty
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form changed to allow hearsay

To be clear, the form wasn't changed, and always allowed second hand info. The instructions were changed to allow the second hand complaint to be deemed urgent and sent to Schiff. Previously it would not.

46 posted on 11/22/2019 1:50:01 PM PST by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways to Sunday)
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