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Walther CCP M2
none ^ | 21 Jan 2018 | self

Posted on 01/21/2019 10:34:59 AM PST by taxcontrol

Any Walther CCP M2 owners out there willing to provide a review? Wife is considering it as her CCW gun. She has a elbow injury that reduces her hand strength. This was the only 9mm she could rack comfortably.

She does not like the feel of Glocks. She did like Sig but can only manage the .380 pocket pistols. Revolvers will only be considered if there is no pistol that meets her needs.

Her work area is starting to get rough but until the doctor's office moves (she is the office manager), she really needs to carry.


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To: taxcontrol
Since limited hand strength is a consideration, and you already raised the topic of the .380, might I suggest you consider a Bersa Thunder 380? All steel but still reasonably light because of its small size, and hefty enough that the .380 cartridge is pretty mild to shoot. Cosmetically similar to a Sig P230/232 and mechanically similar to the Walther PPK and Beretta 70, and (AFAIK) lower priced than any of the Euro-made alternatives.
21 posted on 01/21/2019 11:28:49 AM PST by Paal Gulli
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To: taxcontrol
Bersa Thunder 380 acp. Outstanding concealed carry weapon. Just go to YouTube and watch the plethora of stellar user reviews.

Highly accurate, easy to shoot (feels great in your, or your wife's hand, light trigger pull, light slide pull), easy to break down and clean, reasonably priced and extremely reliable.

Tremendous CC fire arm. Built off of the Walther PPK platform blueprints.

22 posted on 01/21/2019 11:29:53 AM PST by Jmouse007 (Lord God Almighty, deliver us from this evil in the name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, amen.)
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23 posted on 01/21/2019 11:33:52 AM PST by freds6girlies (many that are first shall be last; and the last shall be first. Mt. 19:30. R.I.P. G & J)
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To: taxcontrol
If your wife's hand strength racking the slide is the issue, I have two very serious suggestions for her to try:

The Ruger LC380, or the Smith & Wesson M&P Shield EZ.

Both guns are 9mm chassis, chambered in .380 ACP. Because of this, they are incredibly easy to rack the slide, and with the correct self defense ammunition (Hornaday Critical Defense is one) the .380 is a very credible self-defense round.

Take her to the gun store and have her try out both.

24 posted on 01/21/2019 11:37:55 AM PST by Yo-Yo ( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: taxcontrol

My one cent, I have a Walther PPKS 380 that I have to send to Arnold Schwarzenegger to rack it for me.


25 posted on 01/21/2019 12:19:03 PM PST by Rappini (Compromise has its place. It's called second.)
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To: Yo-Yo
I'm quite fond of my Ruger LCP II .380. It shoots well up to 10 yards or so and is so light and easy to carry I forget it's in my pocket. I don't really forget but its weight doesn't remind me its there every time I move or walk. The regular LCP is okay too if you don't like the trigger safety but I think your wife would prefer the LCP II with the easier to rack slide. It's a nice upgrade to the LCP and it's under $300. You would be doing her a disservice by not allowing her to try one.

The .380 is a good close up round and there are some good choices in carry ammo. The Leigh Defense .380 is my personal favorite.

380 Auto 90gr Xtreme Penetrator Ammunition

26 posted on 01/21/2019 12:38:01 PM PST by Boomer ( Leftism is toxic poison to a free society.)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

“Extremely easy to rack, “

What does this mean?


27 posted on 01/21/2019 12:52:10 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz ("We The People" have turned into "You, The Subjects.")
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To: fini

Ill back fini on the LC9. I bought one and liked it very much but went for the LC9S when it came out. It has a better but still very predictable trigger. Never a malfunction. I have small hands for a guy and it fits well. Nice radiused edges so nothing catches on clothes or holster.


28 posted on 01/21/2019 1:42:00 PM PST by CrazyIvan (A gentleman arms himself for the protection of others.)
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To: taxcontrol
Just bought a Smith & Wesson .380 EZ M&P for my Mom.

Slide is super easy to rack and a good shooter.

Not a tiny, hard to shoot pocket pistol either.

Designed for shooters like your wife.

29 posted on 01/21/2019 1:45:32 PM PST by Eagles6
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To: fini

The second strike capability on the Taurus 709 is a nice feature too. I routinely carry the 740, the.40 caliber version of the 709.

CC


30 posted on 01/21/2019 2:19:27 PM PST by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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To: taxcontrol

Have a Walther PPS. I love it. I tried out, and have others, but it is the one on which I would trust my life.

I have a Ruger LCP .380, and some S&W’s, but my Walther is my favorite. I have a lot of mags for it, and I can shoot about 70-85 rds before my hand (and finger) gets tired.


31 posted on 01/21/2019 3:02:39 PM PST by sockmonkey (I am an America First, not Israel First FReeper.)
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To: taxcontrol

PS Being able to rack the slide was my first consideration.
I liked a Springfield XD, but couldn’t rack it, and lots of others I tried..same problem.

Also, why I prefer a Saiga to a Pump in the Shotgun department.


32 posted on 01/21/2019 3:12:30 PM PST by sockmonkey (I am an America First, not Israel First FReeper.)
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To: taxcontrol

See if you can find a CZ 82 in 9mm Makarov. Mrs. L carries one and loves it. The slide racks back super easy and it has a bit more power than the .380.

Drawback is it’s all metal and a bit heavy.

L


33 posted on 01/21/2019 3:15:55 PM PST by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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I love my Walther PPK in .22LR. It’s a great gun that for no apparent reason is remarkably accurate and seems to naturally point where I want to hit even though it’s not the same angle as my 1911 or other favorite handguns. The trigger pull for double action is insane (17.5 pounds), but it’s beautiful (6.5 pounds) if the PPK is cocked. I can’t answer your question, but the only Walther I own is a very nice handgun.


34 posted on 01/21/2019 4:20:41 PM PST by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: taxcontrol

Racking the slide is about practice and technique more than strength...Has she tried the push-pull method of racking?

Firing side hand pushes the pistol forward while the support hand grasps the rear of the slide, but not covering the ejection port...Kind of sling shot technique...

My wife had small hands and rheumatoid arthritis, but was able to rack her Glock 19 effectively after some practice...May work for you guys, and find that more makes/models become viable options with this method...Good luck...


35 posted on 01/21/2019 4:21:55 PM PST by elteemike (Light travels faster than sound...That's why so many people appear bright until you hear them speak)
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To: taxcontrol

She may be as strong as she will ever be. I would look at SW and Taurus revolvers.


36 posted on 01/21/2019 4:39:28 PM PST by buffaloguy (MSM: Wind up dolls of the DNC.)
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To: Boomer
My everyday carry is a Ruger LCP pocket carried. Until I got the LCP (bought it on sale for a ridiculously low price last Spring,) my carry alternated between a Glock 26 carried IWB and a Smith and Wesson Model 60 J-frame either pocket or IWB carried.

The difference between the LCP and the LCP II is that the LCP is hammer fired, and the LCP II is striker fired and has last shot holdback.

My wife carries a Glock 42 and loves it.

37 posted on 01/21/2019 4:54:58 PM PST by Yo-Yo ( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
With semi-automatics, you have to pull the slide to the rear -- "rack" it -- to then release it and strip a round from the magazine and feed it into the chamber. Depending upon the internal arrangement of certain components, and the stiffness of the spring, it can be quite difficult for some people to do this. A lot of women and older people can have trouble "racking" their pistol, which makes it unusable for them unless someone else does it for them.

The .380 Shield EZ is designed for this to be very easy. You literally can pull the slide to the rear with your pinkie. Some gun tough guys may mock a pistol like that as a "granny gun", but they fill a particular market niche very well.

My wife wanted a handgun, but was turned off by the recoil of most 9mm and the difficulty of operating them. The Shield EZ is really fun to shoot, and very easy to operate. Great gun that does exactly what it is supposed to do. You can read reviews of it online -- I have yet to read a professional review that didn't love it, and it is really perfect for my wife.

38 posted on 01/21/2019 9:02:58 PM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: taxcontrol

Never touched a Walther CCP M2 - my wife uses a Taurus Slim 9mm....a little smaller than most but not as small as the “pocket pistols”....if you haven’t checked one out you may want to give it a look-see.


39 posted on 01/22/2019 2:32:15 AM PST by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Thank you very much for the explanation. I have guest passes to my club and will take the wife there and t her use a .380. See how she likes it.


40 posted on 01/22/2019 5:08:17 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz ("We The People" have turned into "You, The Subjects.")
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