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Tracing a Meme From the Internet’s Fringe to a Republican Slogan (Jobs vs. Mobs)
New York Times ^ | November 4, ,2018 | KEITH COLLINS and KEVIN ROOSE

Posted on 11/04/2018 10:48:11 PM PST by poconopundit

Fascinating graphic portrayal of how the meme, "Jobs not Mobs" spread through the Web. Very cool!

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Politics
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To: FreedomPoster

I only found it about 4 months ago.
With that many subscribers scouring the web, they often get timely news stories online quickly and the reactions, new memes and such quickly follow. Of course there is also a lot of chaff given the subscriber count.

my goto page in the early morning.


41 posted on 11/05/2018 4:49:56 AM PST by Covenantor (Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern. " Chesterton)
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To: poconopundit
That is VERY cool...a great portrayal of information over time that tells a story. I appreciate the ping...I am a bit of a data junkie (for data that is portrayed in an effective manner that tells a story)

Below is an example of a graphic portrayal that told a story, one of the best I have ever seen: The Story of Napoleon's Grand Armee and it's incursion into Russia and subsequent retreat from Waterloo:

In seeing that, the nature of the disaster is clear, and it is easy to visualize in your mind the tracks of blood in the bitter cold snow, and the pitiful rag-tag remains of the army.

42 posted on 11/05/2018 4:52:11 AM PST by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: rlmorel

Can I assume you’re a Tufte fan?

PowerPoint is evil!


43 posted on 11/05/2018 5:15:12 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: rlmorel; FreedomPoster

Found Tufte’s book, “The Visual Display of Quantitative Information” back in 1983 while browsing the new arrivals display at NYC McGraw-Hill store, my chief technical reference source back then. That poster was included with the book. Had it framed and hanging in my studio space for years.

Data to ink ratio, never lose track of that in data presentation...when the data is prime then it was designed to inform, high ink ratio indicates ignorance of data significance or an effort to obsure data significance...as a general rule


44 posted on 11/05/2018 5:47:25 AM PST by Covenantor (Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern. " Chesterton)
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To: poconopundit
going over today's post about this on The_Donald found them laughing over the NYT mention of "Brian Machiavelli" asking $200 for interview of "memrtic warfare consultant"...double hit to the msm.

Memetic Warfare

embrace it!

45 posted on 11/05/2018 5:52:54 AM PST by Covenantor (Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern. " Chesterton)
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To: rlmorel
The Story of Napoleon is a great data portrayal.

A couple decades ago, I bought myself a copy of Richard Saul Wurman's book, Information Architects. The book is a classic.

46 posted on 11/05/2018 5:53:27 AM PST by poconopundit
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To: poconopundit

The fact they thing its “FRINGE” tells you all you need to know....

IT’S THE ECONOMY STUPID!


47 posted on 11/05/2018 5:56:08 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: poconopundit

Thanks for that link! I will check it out-


48 posted on 11/05/2018 6:29:20 AM PST by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: Covenantor
"...Data to ink ratio, never lose track of that in data presentation...when the data is prime then it was designed to inform, high ink ratio indicates ignorance of data significance or an effort to obsure data significance...as a general rule..."

Boy, if there was ever a graph to support your statement, it would be that elegant graph I posted (and the one that is the subject of this thread)

49 posted on 11/05/2018 6:31:48 AM PST by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: FreedomPoster

I am...Powerpoint has its place, but like you (probably) I think it is both misused and overused.

Powerpoint highlights the presentation of information, often at the expense of the information itself...some of those 100+ slide life-killing Powerpoint presentations are proof enough!


50 posted on 11/05/2018 6:34:36 AM PST by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: poconopundit

The first time I saw that graph, I felt a great sadness at the misery that graph portrayed. I think I could feel that without approving or disapproving of Napoleon’s campaign...

I wonder what it would look like if a similar graph was done on the Nazi invasion of The Soviet Union.


51 posted on 11/05/2018 6:37:38 AM PST by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: Covenantor; rlmorel

Are you still in the NYC area? Have you ever been to his gallery?

I like his sculpture, wish I could have made it to one of his farm open houses to see the really big stuff.


52 posted on 11/05/2018 6:59:47 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: rlmorel

That was the exact graph I mentioned as well.

Talk about the amount of data packed, it is simply the most stunning informative presentation in one graph.

Can’t count the times I had to sit through drones bringing up multiple presentation boards with sparse data...then again they just might have been used to short attention span audiences who needed major hand holding and stroking.

;>)


53 posted on 11/05/2018 7:01:04 AM PST by Covenantor (Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern. " Chesterton)
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To: GraceG

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/


54 posted on 11/05/2018 7:01:59 AM PST by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: FreedomPoster

No, left in 94.


55 posted on 11/05/2018 7:02:05 AM PST by Covenantor (Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern. " Chesterton)
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To: Covenantor
...when the data is prime then it was designed to inform, high ink ratio indicates ignorance of data significance or an effort to obscure data significance...as a general rule.

* * *

I like that rule. And I would add, a very low graphic to text ratio may indicate a lack of imagination in "selling" the data -- or making it more readable to those interested.

Over the years, magazines like Fortune and National Geographic have excelled in data presentation.

But if you search on infographics, most of what you see are examples of high ink ratio -- distracting from understanding.

Sometimes you see a splendid combination of art and information as in this one of wine tasting. Preview below.


56 posted on 11/05/2018 7:39:20 AM PST by poconopundit
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To: GraceG

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/

My go to daily


57 posted on 11/05/2018 7:51:30 AM PST by Not gonna take it anymore (Now that Trump has won, I don't have to post about halfwit anymore)
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To: outofsalt

Sure - let’s talk about speed. Years ago, when I would secure a new domain name (like freerepublic.com for example), it could take a day for the domain name to work. Meaning I could type in the domain name and it wouldn’t work. That’s because the technology didn’t exist to update the networks to let the internet fully know that the domain name was ready to use. That is no longer the case. The point of this example is that a domain name can be accessible in minutes vs days or hours anymore.

The point is that things on the web happen much faster today than they did a few years ago. The different computers that make all of this work are collaborating at amazing speeds for a lot of different reasons.

The next issue is about ‘spiders’ or ‘robots’. Those are little programs (not so little anymore) that are constantly searching the internet for new content. There are two kinds of new content: new and updated. They do their best to identify them. Google uses it to keep its search engine fresh. And they dedicate massive computer networks to the process... and it happens FAST.

So that means that when a user posts something on Reddit or Free Republic... the search engines know about it pretty quickly. The timing can vary based upon the reputation of the page (does Google value the page for example)... but generally those times for even the less valuable content are getting shorter as the tech gets smarter and the systems get more powerful.

Now, when content is added or updated (like this post I’m typing) a spider will notice it and take ALL of the content that is available to it and ‘index it’... frankly it’s a fancy word for ‘copy’ ... kind of complicated really... but we’ll just say they make a copy and now it’s in their database.

Now the speed of the internet and the power of the massive server farms create this ‘snapshot’ of the content on the internet... it’s mind-boggling to think of the scale... and now it sits there to be used by entire other technologies that are designed and created to analyze that content.

Every tweet, every post, every facebook message... all of it’s available to be sifted through by very intelligent and fast programs that can spit out answer. What answer? It depends on what you ‘ask’ it. But essentially what’s happened in this article is that someone has written a program to scour the available data sources that have captured where, when and who wrote it (as it relates to the site it was written on) and then begins to parse it into whatever other information they have about the who and the where and then when to generate that bubble graph.

The tech has gotten that fast and that big.

Smarter people than me will cringe at what I’ve written... but that’s ok. :)


58 posted on 11/05/2018 7:54:52 AM PST by Frapster (#JobsNotMobs)
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To: Pollard

Scott Adams is great but I am not fond of his voice, boring, and I prefer reading to listening or watching.


59 posted on 11/05/2018 7:56:03 AM PST by Not gonna take it anymore (Now that Trump has won, I don't have to post about halfwit anymore)
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To: Covenantor
"...Can’t count the times I had to sit through drones bringing up multiple presentation boards with sparse data...then again they just might have been used to short attention span audiences who needed major hand holding and stroking...

LOL, I read that in the military, they have a term "Death by Powerpoint"!

Powerpoint came out long after I was out of the military, but somehow, that just resonated with me!

60 posted on 11/05/2018 8:22:15 AM PST by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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