Posted on 10/28/2018 9:13:40 AM PDT by NotaLowTBoomer
Well, actually I've never voted for a Democrat. I'm 34 and a local truck driver..
I've never voted Democrat because for starters my much older brother is active in politics and always told me when I was a kid that Democrats were evil, and he is the smartest guy I've ever known so he had to be right. He would even make up stories to tell me about democrat monsters and republican heroes lol
But anyway while I support *Private* sector unions, Especially in trucking I do NOT support Public unions. The reason? because public employees are basically working for me and I don't want them bankrupting my company (AKA the government). That's the way it has to be. Can you imagine Public sector unions striking, when you need permits, etc or need to renew a CDL or HAZMAT license but can't because these assholes are on strike? so you lose your license?
I also support universal health care. *BUT* I don't support it today and I don't support it for this country because ~~> WE CAN'T AFFORD IT and our country is in a terrible state financially. Does this really make me a racist xenophobe? because I actually think maybe before the government takes on a massive entitlement that uhh we should be able to actually afford it? Or that we should work together or not do it at all??
I get told I should vote democrat but democrats seem so stupid and whiney. When I explain that we cannot possibly afford UNIVERSAL healthcare in this country here and today they get a glazed over look, like they are unable to process what I've just said, kind of like they are characters in a video game that just say scripted phrases.
I would be so embarrassed to admit I voted for a democrat. They are whiney, loud mouthed, jerks always attacking the president. Always attacking rural people then crying when someone says something bad back to them.
They are not reasonable people, Why do they hate Republicans and Trump and Kavanaugh so much? and this is something else.. they are LIARS, in the media and every else they Lie to themselves and anyone who will listen, then wonder why elections don't work out.
Stick around, thanks for posting.
We need more young people here.
For the older coal miners, go to work for a better mining company. For their children, leave WV and look for work elsewhere, doing something different. I don't have the same occupation that my parents did.
Imagine a time when a crisis increases demand for services and the caduceus becomes a weapon wielded against our freedom. Government Doctors compelled to murder citizens because a bureaucrat judged there are too many mouths to feed or those citizens "think the wrong thoughts."
Health care has not been a "Right" in thousands of years of human history. How could anyone in his right mind suddenly think of this Evil Socialist "Fake Right?"
Those who think a Union could protect them from a businessman need to consider who could protect them from the Union. A MAFIA "Protection Racket" is taken down with a national FBI investigation and RICO charges for organized crime and corruption, yet a Union Boss is a king in the private lives of rank and file craft people. The Mafia Boss and the Union Boss function in exactly the same way.
Oh, thanks for your GOP vote by the way ;^)
Regardless what the misguided Roberts Court wants everybody to think about the constitutionally of unconstitutional (imo) and now effectively repealed Obamacare, please consider this.
The Founding States didnt put anything about healthcare into the Constitution.
H O W E V E R
The founders did put the 10th Amendment into the Constitution.
"10th Amendment: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
In other words, and military issues aside, the 10th Amendment clarifies that the Constitutions silence about things like healthcare means that government power to deal with things like healthcare belongs to the states, not the feds.
In fact, consider that the Roberts Court overlooked the following clarifications of unique state powers to tax and spend for healthcare purposes by previous generations of state sovereignty-respecting justices and a constitutional lawmaker.
"Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States."Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
"State inspection laws, health laws, and laws for regulating the internal commerce of a State, and those which respect turnpike roads, ferries, &c. are not within the power granted to Congress [emphasis added]. Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
"Inspection laws, quarantine laws, health laws of every description [emphasis added], as well as laws for regulating the internal commerce of a state and those which respect turnpike roads, ferries, &c., are component parts of this mass. Justice Barbour, New York v. Miln., 1837.
... the care of the property, the liberty, and the life of the citizen, under the solemn sanction of an oath imposed by your Federal Constitution, is in the States, and not in the Federal Government [emphases added]. Rep. John Bingham, Congressional Globe, 1866. (See about middle of 3rd column.)
"Direct control of medical practice in the states is obviously [emphases added] beyond the power of Congress. Linder v. United States
"From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited [emphasis added]. United States v. Butler, 1936.
In other words, what unconstitutional Obamacare did was to reveal that all three branches of the post-17th Amendment ratification, unconstitutionally big federal government are corrupt.
It boils down to the following imo concerning career Democrats and RINOs.
"The smart crooks long ago figured out that getting themselves elected to federal office to make unconstitutional tax laws to fill their pockets is a much easier way to make a living than robbing banks." me
"Federal career lawmakers probably laugh all the way to the bank to deposit bribes for putting loopholes for the rich and corporations in tax appropriations laws, Congress actually not having the express constitutional authority to make most laws where domestic policy is concerned. Such laws are based on stolen state powers and uniquely associated stolen state revenues." me
The remedy for unconstitutionally big federal government
It is now time for patriots to finish the job that they started when they elected Trump president.
More specifically, patriots should now be exercising their voting muscle to fire corrupt career lawmakers, replacing them with patriot lawmakers who will not only put a stop to unconstitutional federal taxing and spending, but will also support Trump's vision for MAGA.
Unionism is socialism. You’re no conservative. You’re a ‘’cafeteria conservative’’.
yep
For the older coal miners, go to work for a better mining company. For their children, leave WV and look for work elsewhere, doing something different. I don't have the same occupation that my parents did.
Well, back when John L. Lewis was just getting started there was a great injustice to fight against. The Coal Mines paid workers in script, which could only be spent in company stores, instead of real money.
In addition, anyone who became a miner was required to go into debt to pay for his startup equipment and living expenses. The company stores kept a running ledger of the debt that the miner could never get out from under. The miner could not leave his job while he still "owed his soul to the company store."
Some of my relatives were coal miners from my maternal Grandfather on back. They way my Grandfather ended that cycle is that he became a Democrat sycophant government worker in FDR's "New Deal." And at that point, my Grandmother became a staunch Republican for life. My Grandfather retired from the Bureau of Mines as a MESA Bureau Chief (GS-umpteen,whatever).
Years later, my Grandmother would tell of us kids about the evil Democrat corruption and dirty deals of Roosevelt's cronies and she really resented my Grandfather being a party to it.
At Mets games at Shea Stadium, batters used to step out of the box because of the planes flying over. It was in the takeoff-landing pattern of the airport.
Was there only one coal mine operator in the entire US? Or even in WV?
The company stores kept a running ledger of the debt that the miner could never get out from under. The miner could not leave his job while he still "owed his soul to the company store."
The miner could always walk away and declare bankruptcy. Or just run away and to hell with the debt. It's not like there were databases in those days, tracking everyone by social security number.
The debt of the fathers was not binding on the children, who could leave, or be sent off to relatives elsewhere.
Certainly, a number of private-sector unions have outlived their usefulness and exist now for the benefit of the union bosses. But right to work includes the freedom to pick a union (even if it’s an unwise choice) or not to.
It’s also activist judges like Sonia Sotomayor telling you you can’t employ replacements.
I’m actually not a conservative at all. I only vote republican because I want adults in charge. I am not a liberal either though, i’d prefer military rule.
Why do you prefer Military Rule over Freedom and Liberty?
If you think socialism is any different than communism you need to reread history
You last comment is ridiculous
Socialism is the economic wing of communism. You sound ridiculous. Read a book yourself.
The debt of the fathers was not binding on the children, who could leave, or be sent off to relatives elsewhere.
In the 1930's a miner with a 3rd grade education and 10 or 12 children wasn't going to to have the wherewithal to do what you suggest. Honorable men do not shirk their debt. And children honored their father and mother as The Ten Commandments ordered them to do. During the Great Depression few relatives had the ability to take in other family members. You need to stop attempting to ascribe your 2018 values to 1918 rural God fearing Christians. I believe I have better insight than most because my father was the youngest son of my Victorian Grandfather.
January 25, 1870 is the date my paternal grandfather was born. General Grant had been President for less than a year. Queen Victoria had over thirty years still to reign. I never knew anything about my paternal grandfather because he died of old age many years before I was born. My Dad was unvaryingly parochial and dogmatic, which is quite understandable when you realize he was raised by a true Victorian father, born less than five years after the Civil War.I was raised to know that all debts must be paid and personal bankruptcy was an act of an unscrupulous cheat.
You may have missed my earlier post where I emphatically indicated that all trade unions are the scourge of man. I still can recognize that one hundred years ago they seemed like a solution for many hopeless souls.
Yep.
Trump’s policies (immigration control and limitation of off-shoring) increase the American workers’ share of company profits.
Heck, that used to be the goal of socialists. God knows what socialists’ goals for the worker are now. Welfare I guess.
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