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1 posted on 06/20/2018 5:07:12 AM PDT by w1n1
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Alaska Ping.

2 posted on 06/20/2018 5:26:14 AM PDT by KC_Lion (If you want on First Lady Melania's, Ivanka Trump's or Sarah Palin's Ping Lists, just let me know.)
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Though, Phil 9mm handgun lacked penetration, his 9mm made up in higher magazine capacity. With more rounds Phil was able to shoot multiple times to put down the bear.

How many more rounds and did he empty the magazine to stop the bear?

My guess: Yep!

3 posted on 06/20/2018 5:29:09 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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I carry a S&W 629 chambered in 44 Magnum with Buffalo Bore bullets.


4 posted on 06/20/2018 5:41:44 AM PDT by Comment Not Approved (When bureaucrats outlaw hunting, outlaws will hunt bureaucrats.)
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Yeah, years ago there was a girl who killed a grizzly with a .22. So what? Were i in an area with grizzlies i would still carry a .44 mag at least.


5 posted on 06/20/2018 5:42:22 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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AM Shooting Journal is either written by a first-grader, or translated from Swahili to Chinese to English. The incredibly poor writing/editing/punctuation greatly diminishes the impact of its stories.


9 posted on 06/20/2018 5:47:44 AM PDT by Henchster (Free Republic - the BEST site on the web!)
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They were lucky. That’s an irresponsible and poor guide who takes his clients into dangerous areas ill prepared.


12 posted on 06/20/2018 5:53:17 AM PDT by 762X51
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this “reporter/journalist” did not bother to read the product description... The description says:
“...This load is designed to penetrate deep (4 to 6 feet) in a straight line, through flesh and bones and that flat nose does considerably more terminal damage, as it crushes its way through tissues, than a round nose bullet does as it slips and slides it way through tissues and that crushing action, keeps the bullet nose forward and ensures very deep straight-line penetration. Round nose bullets tend to get sideways as they slip and slide through tissues and this often causes them to veer off path. This bullet is designed to crush through a large bear skull, coming and going.”
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/101803111/buffalo-bore-ammunition-outdoorsman-9mm-luger-p-147-grain-hard-cast-lead-flat-nose-box-of-20


14 posted on 06/20/2018 5:54:43 AM PDT by leopud
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I live in black bear country. I bought 180gr hard cast Buffalo Bore rounds for the .357 in the event one gets in the house. A black got mostly into our kitchen in 2007. My wife bonked it on the nose and it retreated.

The recoil and noise on those Buffalo bore rounds is a noticeable bump over a standard .357 round.


16 posted on 06/20/2018 6:07:53 AM PDT by Malsua
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A few years ago a guy killed a charging Grizzly with a 5.45x39 AK. 7 rounds IIRC.

I have no doubt a 9mm would work also, but that must taken 15 rounds or so. Wow!


17 posted on 06/20/2018 6:21:44 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Like Enoch, Noah, & Lot, the True Church will soon be removed & then destruction comes forth.)
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I’m no expert on guns or bears, but I’d want something more than a 9mm handgun to take on a bear in Alaska - I’d have thought that all a 9mm would do is make the bear angry.


19 posted on 06/20/2018 6:47:19 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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Shot placement; he was lucky.


20 posted on 06/20/2018 6:52:18 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (Life is simpler when you plow around the stump.)
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Anyone that relies on LUCK when dealing with firearms and bears is an IDIOT.

I wonder what he will carry with him the next time he goes into bear country?


22 posted on 06/20/2018 7:25:31 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Build The Wall !! Jail The Cankle !!)
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There have been four successful, documented uses of 9 mm handguns to stop bear attacks. One was a black bear in Colorado, two grizzlys in Alaska (the Phil Shoemaker account is one of these) and one grizzly in Montana.

http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2018/02/defense-against-bears-with-pistols-97_25.html


30 posted on 06/20/2018 7:53:27 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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Lacked penetration? Buffalo Bore 9mm hardcast gives 4 to 6 FEET of penetration depending on the bone vs soft tissue combo.

He shot it in the vitals because that was the shot he had. A brain shot didn’t present itself. But that round could have easily brained him through a bear skull.


34 posted on 06/20/2018 8:20:47 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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Shot placement and hard cast bullets probably made the difference...But a 9mm (or any pistol/revolver under .40 caliber, other than a .357), is “iffy” and would not ever be my choice for bear defense...

Pounded a lot of ground in central Alaska as a young infantry NCO, and our point and drag guys were armed with 12 ga pump guns, loaded with slugs for bear encounters...


45 posted on 06/20/2018 5:13:53 PM PDT by elteemike (Light travels faster than sound...That's why so many people appear bright until you hear them speak)
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