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Tip: Pentagon Covering Up Fact That Female Officers Nearly Sank Navy Ship
The Other McCain ^ | 17 June 2018 | Roibert Stacy McCain

Posted on 06/19/2018 3:34:19 PM PDT by Rummyfan

An anonymous email came in over the transom this morning:

Hi, Stacy.
During the early weeks after the USS Fitzgerald was speared by a lumbering Philippine container ship, it was noteworthy that the captain and a couple of admirals were publically named, but not the actual officer in charge, the officer of the deck. (OOD) The other person who should have kept the Fitz out of trouble is the person in charge of the combat information center, the Tactical Action Officer. That individual is supposed to be monitoring the combat radar, which can detect a swimmer at a distance of two miles. Not until a year later, when the final reports are made public and the guilty parties have been court-martialed, does the truth come out. The OOD was named Sarah, and the Tactical Action Officer was named Natalie, and they weren’t speaking to each other!!! The Tactical Action Officer would normally be in near constant communication with the OOD, but there is no record of any communication between them that entire shift!

Another fun fact: In the Navy that won WWII, the damage control officers were usually some of the biggest and strongest men aboard, able to close hatches, shore up damaged areas with timbers, etc. The Fitz’s damage control officer was also a woman, and she never left the bridge. She handled the aftermath of the accident remotely, without lifting a finger herself!

Look it up: The OOD was Sarah Coppock, Tactical Action Officer was Natalie Combs. . . .

When I noticed last year that they were doing all they could to keep the OOD’s name out of the headlines, I speculated to my son that it was a she. Turns out all the key people (except one officer in the CIC) were female!

Indeed, I did some searching, and Lt. Coppock pleaded guilty to dereliction of duty. Lt. Combs faced a hearing last month:

In an 11-hour hearing, prosecutors painted a picture of Lt. Irian Woodley, the ship’s surface warfare coordinator, and Lt. Natalie Combs, the tactical action officer, as failing at their jobs, not using the tools at their disposal properly and not communicating adequately. They became complacent with faulty equipment and did not seek to get it fixed, and they failed to communicate with the bridge, the prosecution argued. Had they done those things, the government contended, they would have been able to avert the collision. That two of the officers — Coppock and Combs — involved in this fatal incident were female suggests that discipline and training standards have been lowered for the sake of “gender integration,” which was a major policy push at the Pentagon during the Obama administration. It could be that senior officers, knowing their promotions may hinge on enthusiastic support for “gender integration,” are reluctant to enforce standards for the women under their command.

This was the story of Kara Hultgreen, the Navy pilot who died in a 1994 F-14 crash. Investigation showed that Hultgreen had been allowed to proceed in her training after errors that would have meant a washout for any male pilot. But the Clinton administration was pushing for female fighter pilots, which resulted in a competition between the Navy and Air Force to put women into these combat roles. It is not necessary to believe that (a) women shouldn’t be fighter pilots, in order to believe (b) lowering standards for the sake of quotas is a bad idea. Of course, you may believe both (a) and (b), but it is (b) that gets people killed.

It seems obvious that the Pentagon (and the liberal media) sought to suppress full knowledge of what happened to the Fitzgerald in the immediate aftermath of the June 2017 incident that killed seven sailors, in the same way the details of Kara Hultgreen’s death were suppressed. It took investigative reporters like Rowan Scarborough of the Washington Times a lot of hard work to find out what actually happened to Hultgreen. Let’s hope other reporters will dig into what’s happening in our military with the “gender intergration” agenda at the Pentagon now.


TOPICS: Military/Veterans; Miscellaneous; Politics
KEYWORDS: gashes; military; navy; obama; pentagon; ussfitzgerald; women; womendrivers
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To: House Atreides; Rummyfan; petitfour

“This was the story of Kara Hultgreen, the Navy pilot who died in a 1994 F-14 crash. Investigation showed that Hultgreen had been allowed to proceed in her training after errors that would have meant a washout for any male pilot.
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The INCOMPETENT PILOT JOHN MCCAIN was not washed out. Perhaps the fact that his father and grandfather were admirals had something to do with it.”

“The same was not true of the McCain collision. I think they blamed it on an 18 year old who did not know how to work the equipment properly.”

This was only one McCain case. Over his career he lost FIVE aircraft but still kept his wings.


21 posted on 06/19/2018 4:08:14 PM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Note to all foreigners: GET OUT and STAY OUT!)
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To: Rummyfan

“She handled the aftermath of the accident remotely, without lifting a finger herself!”

Maybe she thought that printing new hatches would do the trick?


22 posted on 06/19/2018 4:09:46 PM PDT by BobL (I drive a pick up truck because it makes me feel like a man)
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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise

I was talking about the USS McCain collision. Sorry for not writing the name of the ship.


23 posted on 06/19/2018 4:10:13 PM PDT by petitfour (APPEAL TO HEAVEN)
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To: Pravious
Remember that walkway that collapsed down in Florida was designed by an all woman engineering team.

Is this true or are you just spreading gossip because it sounds good?I dunno but before I pass on incredible info, I have either personal knowledge of or a reliable source to point to.

Source please!
24 posted on 06/19/2018 4:12:47 PM PDT by RedMonqey (" Those who turn their arms in for plowshares will be doing thSome Fe plowing for those who didnÂ’t.)
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To: Az Joe
Woman Onboard a Ship Will Bring Bad Luck.

That's why the Old Sea Dogs always brought along Mr. Prostitute.


25 posted on 06/19/2018 4:13:27 PM PDT by Boiler Plate ("Why be difficult, when with just a little more work, you can be impossible" Mom)
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To: Rummyfan

The problem is not the fact she is female. The problem is standards of performance have been lowered for females. IT IS JUST THAT DAMN SIMPLE AND A REALITY THAT IS A CAREER KILLER FOR OFFICERS THAT OBJECT.

I have zero problems with a female fighter pilot as it does not take great upper body strength to to be a fighter pilot. If she can meet the same standards, give her an F-16, A-10, F-15 etc and send her out to kill.

ps
My son was a combat medic in Iraq for two tours of duty. He is also a weight lifter. His unit loved him because they knew he could carry their wounded ass off the battlefield. They protected him as they knew if it all turned to shit he was the one that would save their ass. He did not carry a rifle but only his Barreta side arm. If things went bad their would be weapons laying around. Thankfully and by grace of god this never happened to him. He was in fire fights but the other guys were doing the fighting. They did not want him hurt. Oddly all loses in his unit were due to IEDs.

He lost his Sergent to an IED. That hurt him a lot. More than most can understand. His Sergent was his brother in arms. He packed his wounds and stopped external bleeding and was dusted off. His sarge died of internal bleeding that Chris could not have stopped. He had survivors guilt. He was supposed to save him but could not.

Oddly when he was home on leave his was most happy to be home but at the same time wanted to go back. When he was not with his unit he was concerned that he would not be there if “HIS GUYS” needed him.

He was a warrior and is a most superior man for his combat. He came home a damn mess. The VA helped him and I am most grateful for them. Today he will speak to me about combat in generalities with few specifics.

Now he is a registered nurse and one year from finishing his Nurse Practitioners License. Oddly this man of combat only wants to help people today.


26 posted on 06/19/2018 4:15:35 PM PDT by cpdiii (cane cutter, deckhand, roughneck, geologist, pilot, pharmacist, THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: Rummyfan

“It is not necessary to believe that (a) women shouldn’t be fighter pilots, in order to believe (b) lowering standards for the sake of quotas is a bad idea. Of course, you may believe both (a) and (b), but it is (b) that gets people killed.”

You can’t integrate women into the force without lowering standards, because they can’t do the job. There are elements of the job that women don’t even know exist.


27 posted on 06/19/2018 4:16:32 PM PDT by dsc (Our system of government cannot survive one-party control of communications.)
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To: RedMonqey
"....It’s the fault of those who put these incompetent women in these positions. All in the name of “diversity”...."

And that would be the then commander-in-chief, Barack Obama.

28 posted on 06/19/2018 4:16:35 PM PDT by HotHunt
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To: Rummyfan; Travis McGee

USN ping


29 posted on 06/19/2018 4:16:38 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Rummyfan

Did those female officers see a Macy’s Sale sign in the ocean and got distracted?


30 posted on 06/19/2018 4:16:44 PM PDT by max americana (Fired libtard employees 9 consecutive times at every election since 08'. I hope all liberals die.)
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To: Rummyfan

It wasn’t long ago that people weren’t judged by what’s between their legs, but rather if they had HALF A BRAIN.


31 posted on 06/19/2018 4:18:23 PM PDT by BobL (I drive a pick up truck because it makes me feel like a man)
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To: Rummyfan
Not a coverup:

https://news.usni.org/2018/05/10/uss-fitzgerald-combat-team-unaware-approaching-merchant-ship-seconds-fatal-collision

32 posted on 06/19/2018 4:18:24 PM PDT by IndispensableDestiny
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To: Obadiah

The OOD was named Sarah, and the Tactical Action Officer was named Natalie, and they weren’t speaking to each other!!!

Gay gals spat ...


33 posted on 06/19/2018 4:21:27 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: cpdiii

“I have zero problems with a female fighter pilot as it does not take great upper body strength to to be a fighter pilot.”

Flying the Tomcat took a substantial amount of upper body strength. Flying any fighter requires the strength to stand up to G forces.

“If she can meet the same standards”

She can’t. Ever. That’s why they have to lower standards to get women in the force. Even if women could meet standards, which they can’t, their mere presence creates problems that our fighting men shouldn’t have to deal with.


34 posted on 06/19/2018 4:21:30 PM PDT by dsc (Our system of government cannot survive one-party control of communications.)
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To: RedMonqey

Is this true or are you just spreading gossip because it sounds good?I dunno but before I pass on incredible info, I have either personal knowledge of or a reliable source to point to.

Source please!

Well, I’m not making it up.

Here’s a story on it . . .

http://sandrarose.com/2018/03/diversity-fail-women-engineering-team-behind-collapse-miami-pedestrian-bridge/

On the other hand, Snopes says it’s “based on incomplete, inaccurate, and misleading information” - which could just mean there’s 9,999 women and one guy working for the company.


35 posted on 06/19/2018 4:21:32 PM PDT by Pravious
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To: Pravious

I’ve read women were only part of the team that designed the Florida bridge.


36 posted on 06/19/2018 4:22:34 PM PDT by buridan
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To: buridan

Maybe they’re the ones who said: “Oh, we’ll build supports for the walk-way right after we finish shoe shopping...”

(runs and ducks)


37 posted on 06/19/2018 4:25:41 PM PDT by Pravious
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To: Rummyfan

The OOD was named Sarah, and the Tactical Action Officer was named Natalie, and they weren’t speaking to each other!!! The Tactical Action Officer would normally be in near constant communication with the OOD, but there is no record of any communication between them that entire shift!


Wondering if they had some kind of tiff?


38 posted on 06/19/2018 4:30:22 PM PDT by rbg81 (Truth is stranger than fiction)
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To: Rummyfan

I remembering reading about a female skipper of an Arleigh Burke class destroyer was fired because the ship made some unsafe movement while a helicopter was landing. People on the helicopter were killed. That is 0bama’s navy. What the hell, diversity is goal number one.


39 posted on 06/19/2018 4:32:05 PM PDT by forgotten man
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To: Obadiah

Careful. How many accidents have you been involved in?


40 posted on 06/19/2018 4:34:06 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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