Posted on 06/19/2018 4:44:30 AM PDT by w1n1
Yeh, I think most gun enthusiasts understand how powerful both these handguns are.
For the non-gun educated, the term .357 magnum itself is enough to bring fear into their minds.
Both the Glock 10mm and the .357 magnum are serious personal defense calibers.
Which caliber is best against real muscles or something that simulates it?
YouTuber mark3smle tests this out by demonstrating which caliber is capable of against a ballistic gel.
Ballistic gelatin is a testing medium scientifically correlated to swine muscle tissue (which in turn is comparable to human muscle tissue), in which the effects of bullet wounds can be simulated.
This is probably what you need to understand, is that the ballistic gel gives you an idea of the path of the bullet when it penetrates a target tissue that is similar to real muscle.
These two powerful cartridges penetration are quite impressive. Traditionally, the .357 magnum has a long track record of a mini-hand cannon for personal defense.
In mark3smle test you can see the .357 penetration at 22 inches.
The 10mm is a newcomer in the hunting world, but has become a big player in the market for bear hunters or anyone needing extra power. See the rest and full footage of 10mm vs .357 Magnum here.
Highway patrol cops were big fans of .357, precisely because it has the penetrating power to go through a car door and still take down the bad guy inside the vehicle.
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I sometimes use my 357 Revolver with 38+P in Self Defense Round as a Carry Gun. Other times a 1911 45 ACP Cocked and Locked.
I used to love shooting .38s out of my dad-in-laws .357 revolver.
With the weak kick, It was a joy to shoot.
Yup, agree. In fact, I dont load the +P round in my wifes revolver. Its my belief that the first and most important objective is to hit the target.
The .357 is my all time favorite on planet earth. It has it’s disadvantages but if I only had one handgun to last me a lifetime the .357 is the choice.
Glocks have their place. I have a couple, and a couple of SW .357’s. They make great teammates.
Like pistol whipping someone with a nerf gun.
I take my wife and daughter out shooting occasionally. They love the heft of a .357 tempered using .38spc.
Just every once in a while I’ll slip in a .357 with the .38’s.
I just tell them I’m checking their grip, but it always makes them jump and I get a dirty look.
My 14 yo grand daughter loves to shoot all of my 38 rounds and especially loves to shoot them in my S & W 357 Magnum.
Shooting 158 gr 357 rounds are just a bit too much for her, but she will shoot 6 rounds from time to time, {just to remember why she should stick with the 38s}.
I'm betting that revolver has at least a 3 inch or probably longer barrel because if you tired that with a snub nose 357 I bet they'd give you more than a dirty look. lol.
They like the 6”. That may not have come out right.
Actually I don't mind shooting 357 out of a heavy revolver with a 4"-6" barrel. (like a Ruger GP-100 or a S&W 686) Anything smaller than that and it's just not fun anymore.
I carry .357 w 200 gr. hard cast in Griz country.
I want the penetration.
I don’t carry larger because getting the second round on target is important for Griz.
Yup, the recoil can be kind of sharp. A hundred or so rounds and the old hand starts to feel it.
Odd comparison. I can’t imagine anyone at the gun store thinking: “Should I buy a Delta Elite or a S&W 686?” Very different ammo with very different philosophies for very different guns.
Unless you are a reloader (confident enough to use your reloads for defensive purposes) or have access to specialty ammo, I’d probably go with .40 S&W over 10mm. Modern 10mm factory loads are lighter “FBI” loads that drive the same bullet to the same velocities as .40 S&W. That’s why .40 S&W was invented—when the FBI started demanding weaker 10mm loads, manufacturers realized you could fit a ballistically-similar load in a shorter case that would work in a smaller-framed pistol. .40 S&W is much more affordable and more readily available than 10mm.
.357 magnum is an extremely effective cartridge, with some caveats. Some suggest revolvers for casual or inexperienced shooters, and I tend to agree due to the ease of operation, but those shooters should be sticking with .38 +P due to the stiff recoil of most .357 loads out of most revolvers chambered for it. Also, double-action triggers can be tough to manage for inexperienced shooters (or even some experienced shooters). Deafening noise and blinding muzzle flash are also negatives, particularly for home defense at night. You need at least a 6” barrel to get the full advantage of .357 (though it is still very effective in 3 or 4”), which is great for hunting or for the range but unwieldy for carry.
S&W makes a Model 610 which handles .40 cal AND 10mm. 6 rounds.
Generally speaking a heavier bullet gives more penetration than a lighter bullet.
Generally speaking a faster bullet gives more penetration than a lighter bullet.
Generally speaking.
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Pretty easy to order ammo now. I reload but carry Underwood 220 on the trail. About 4 feet of gel penetration.
Wish I had one but didn’t have the cash while they were in production, cost more now.
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