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Pope Francis tells gay man: 'God made you like this'
The Manchester Guardian ^ | May 20, 2018

Posted on 05/20/2018 6:18:10 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

A survivor of clerical sexual abuse has said Pope Francis told him that God had made him gay and loved him, in arguably the most strikingly accepting comments about homosexuality to be uttered by the leader of the Roman Catholic church.

Juan Carlos Cruz, who spoke privately with the pope two weeks ago about the abuse he suffered at the hands of one of Chile’s most notorious paedophiles, said the issue of his sexuality had arisen because some of the Latin American country’s bishops had sought to depict him as a pervert as they accused him of lying about the abuse.

“He told me, ‘Juan Carlos, that you are gay does not matter. God made you like this and loves you like this and I don’t care. The pope loves you like this. You have to be happy with who you are,’” Cruz told Spanish newspaper El País.

Now 87, Fernando Karadima, the man who abused Cruz, was found guilty of abuse by the Vatican in 2011.

Greg Burke, the Vatican’s chief spokesman, did not respond to questions about whether Cruz’s statement accurately reflected his conversation with the pope....

(Excerpt) Read more at theguardian.com ...


TOPICS: Politics; Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: antipope; chile; fernandokaradima; francis; homosexualagenda; juancarloscruz; popefrancis; religiousleft; romancatholicism; sin; unbiblical
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Yeah, and God made me with a normal heterosexual sex drive. He also sent his only begotten son in the flesh Jesus Christ to bring us the Gospel and train me to keep it within the proper bounds of holy matrimony.

Why doesn't Pope Frank tell the homo crowd that they need to overcome their deviant perversions the same way I learned to train myself?

21 posted on 05/20/2018 6:34:39 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
God made him that way....and a Pervert Priest decided to reinforce it?
22 posted on 05/20/2018 6:36:07 PM PDT by Bommer ( F the NFL!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

BS. If he’s not lying, he misinterpreted something said.


23 posted on 05/20/2018 6:54:19 PM PDT by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: EEGator

Yep!! First he declared there was NO HELL and now he’s calling the scriptures a liar!! He needs to be removed before he does MORE damage to the catholic church!!


24 posted on 05/20/2018 6:55:30 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
What does the pope have to say to a child molester and his enablers? Doesn't matter that God or anyone loves him, he is still going to jail and maybe to hell. We hope.

25 posted on 05/20/2018 6:55:43 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Kill: google,TWITTER,FACEBOOK,WaPo,Hollywd,CNN,NFL,BLM,CAIR,Antifa,SPLC,ESPN,NPR,NBA)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Jesuits are evil, and this pope puts to a lie the old line, “Is the Pope Catholic?”<

Because this one isn’t.


26 posted on 05/20/2018 6:57:00 PM PDT by Lazamataz (What America needs is more Hogg control.)
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To: editor-surveyor
There was a prophecy that this would be the last Pope of the Catholic Church.

It's coming true. Whatever remains of the Catholic faith, it sure won't be the Catholic Church.

27 posted on 05/20/2018 6:59:03 PM PDT by Lazamataz (What America needs is more Hogg control.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And Catholics expect the magisterium to tell them what the bible says?


28 posted on 05/20/2018 7:02:04 PM PDT by Old Yeller (Auto-correct has become my worst enema.)
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To: Kazan
He might be the first Pope to end up in hell.

Read history. There have been a lot more evil popes than this one.
29 posted on 05/20/2018 7:04:27 PM PDT by Old Yeller (Auto-correct has become my worst enema.)
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To: Old Yeller

Just so. It’s an old saying that “The Floor of Hell is paved with the skulls of Bishops.”

And if anyone wants a quick glimpse of the Popes in Hell, they should read Dante’s Inferno. Which is worth a read in any case.


30 posted on 05/20/2018 7:08:46 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Lazamataz

Isn’t here also something about Peter the Roman being the one to lead the Church during the Tribulation? Can’t remember where I read/heard that. Francis is 81. Could be he’s not a real pope, for any one of various reasons, and the next one is Peter the Roman.


31 posted on 05/20/2018 7:12:19 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: Lazamataz

+1


32 posted on 05/20/2018 7:17:25 PM PDT by maggief
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hmmm, must be a new tradition, which overrules scripture of course.


33 posted on 05/20/2018 7:20:23 PM PDT by aimhigh (1 John 3:23)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

God loves each and every child he creates. And He has told us how we are to live, too. That does not include a “ homosexual lifestyle”. Francis needs to preach God’s word including His moral law


34 posted on 05/20/2018 7:20:44 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicans aren't born, they're excreted." -Marcus Tillius Cicero (3 BCE))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

35 posted on 05/20/2018 7:22:18 PM PDT by Slyfox (Not my circus, not my monkeys)
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To: Vigilanteman
Why doesn't Pope Frank tell the homo crowd that they need to overcome their deviant perversions the same way I learned to train myself?

I suspect he's a boy lovin' homo himself...

36 posted on 05/20/2018 8:07:12 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Iscool

it would seem that way- He even called the victims of homosexual rape liars recently- clearly attempting to protect the homosexual priest- He sure does wish to protect and advocate for homosexuals


37 posted on 05/20/2018 8:54:37 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: firebrand; Lazamataz

Just looked it up. It’s part of Malachy’s prophecy.


38 posted on 05/20/2018 8:56:12 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No. God made the man, yes, but choices made him homosexual. There is no gay gene, or chromosome.


39 posted on 05/20/2018 9:30:48 PM PDT by ro_dreaming (Chesterton, 'Christianity has not been tried and found wanting. It's been found hard and not tried')
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Not a fan of Francis, but has anyone read beyond the headline?


40 posted on 05/21/2018 12:06:44 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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