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Troubles with Cloning and Recovery of my Windows 10 PC
Self | 4/23/2018 | Dan Baker

Posted on 04/23/2018 3:46:45 AM PDT by poconopundit

Having trouble with my PC. Here are some of the issues:

Any hints on how to solve such problems would be much appreciated. Thank you.


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: windows
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To: Ouderkirk

I agree 100% there..
Thankfully, the only HD failure I ever had was around 2002.

No matter what the anti-Seagate or anti-WD peeps say, I’ve used both and never had a complete failure (prior to SSD).. I had a failure on 1 Seagate, but was able to recover important data (passwords) back in 2002.

I think the majority of the complaints about “failure” were from people who didn’t know how to recover (including the “tech support”).

We are living in a different age of computers (I started in 1980, when knowing how to use a computer was like being a guru that everyone would kiss your planters wart on the bottom of your foot to fix their computer.. which was quite simple ;^))

I miss those days :/
When Win 95 came out, the problems started rising..

(I can’t count how many times I installed/uninstalled Win 3.0/3.1/3.11 and reinstalled DOS, all the way up until 6.22.. and still wish that DOS was still around.)

Make it simple made it make it stupid :p

Thankfully, I still have UNIX and Linux to back me up


41 posted on 04/23/2018 6:19:43 AM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: Ouderkirk

Forgot to mention, I have used both Seagate and WD for over a decade with no problems (NON-SSD).. I am waiting for tech-advancements before I go full SSD, and am avoiding CLOUD.


42 posted on 04/23/2018 6:23:08 AM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: ConservativeMind

Another Vote for Acronis True Image

It actually works!


43 posted on 04/23/2018 6:26:04 AM PDT by infool7 (Observe, Orient, Pray, Decide, Act!(it's an OOPDA loop))
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To: infool7

Another vote for Acronis True Image. I used it a month ago to recover a crashed disk.


44 posted on 04/23/2018 6:29:53 AM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: poconopundit

If you have all your data recovered from the ssd try installing Linux Mint on and see what happens


45 posted on 04/23/2018 6:56:25 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: poconopundit

When I used win10( on 2 desktops and 3 Laptops) I noticed the hard drive would run at 100% for a long time at bootup and nothing I did would fix it


46 posted on 04/23/2018 6:58:58 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: AppyPappy
I don’t keep anything on my computer that I want to keep secret. If I want to keep it secret(bank data, etc), it gets encrypted and put somewhere off the computer.

I partition my hard drives into a program partition and a data partition. I then encrypt the data partition with Diskcryptor. (I back up the data partition to an external hard drive and encrypt that partition as well.) Nobody's gaining access to the data partition without the master password. It's as if the drive doesn't exist. I can easily work with the data on my computer once I've opened it with the master password. Every time the computer reboots, the master password must again be entered in order to access the drive.

47 posted on 04/23/2018 7:21:39 AM PDT by KevinB (I do not care for this Obama fellow.)
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To: trebb
have only had one HD crash and that was from a off-balance CD that shook it to death in short order

That happened because there was too much data stored on one side of the CD. Ya gotta spread out that data to prevent such catastrophes. :-)

48 posted on 04/23/2018 7:50:09 AM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: KevinB

That is all dependent on a) remembering the password, b) not getting corrupted, c) not getting hacked with a key logger and d) not getting ransomed. We lost data because our backup included the corruption. Unless you use the data frequently, it’s probably best to just take it off the computer. You can’t ransom a drive that isn’t attached.

Zip it with a password. Sometimes the best defense is to just take it off the machine.

I rebuild my systems at work about once a year. I quit doing cloning and just install everything I want.


49 posted on 04/23/2018 7:59:12 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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To: AppyPappy

I am an attorney and need to work with that data every day; therefore, storing data off my computer is not an option. Remembering the password is not an issue. The threat of keyloggers is very small given how I use my computer and virus protection. It is a system that has worked very well for me for years now.


50 posted on 04/23/2018 8:23:20 AM PDT by KevinB (I do not care for this Obama fellow.)
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To: poconopundit

Lot of head banging with Windoze, perhaps it might be time to consider if it’s worth using at all. Maybe you like the head banging. I certainly woulnd’t


51 posted on 04/23/2018 8:41:33 AM PDT by nevadapatriot
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To: poconopundit

Samsung SSDs are the only ones you should consider buying: five year warranty, not that that will do you any good if it crashes, but shows the company’s faith in their products.

also, there’s far more going on in W10 (or any W) than updates that will slowly reduce the lifetime of all SSDs.

among these are automatic defrag, which are unnecessary for SSDs and actually suck the life out of them. track down all places that enable autodefrags and kill them, including disabling the process.

disable all updater services.

disable the superfetch service.

Using Performance Monitor, disable Readboot Startup Event Trace Session.


52 posted on 04/23/2018 8:46:59 AM PDT by catnipman ( Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Ouderkirk

Good advice, Ouderkirk. Thank you.


53 posted on 04/23/2018 8:49:36 AM PDT by poconopundit (MAGA... Get the Spirit. Grow your community. Focus on your Life's Work. Empower the Young.)
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To: poconopundit

I use Macrium Reflect Free Home Edition. I have not tried it with SSD’s.

re: Update/upgrade. About a month ago, I bought a Win10 tablet, as it looks like we will all eventually be forced into Win10. During the initial first-time process, it did several upgrades. Those upgrades took around 8 HOURS to finish.

Since Win10 automatically updates, I have noticed several times that the tablet has stalled and needs a turn-off/turn-on or the log-in screen shows up. [I have it set to never shut down automatically, but it still does sometimes.]

[I still hate Win10 and pray that my Win7 desktop and laptop last a long long time.]


54 posted on 04/23/2018 8:51:51 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Bikkuri; Basket_of_Deplorables

Thanks for advice on not defragging.

What I’ve read on-line is that defragging of an SSD is not necessary. But you guys are saying it can be harmful!

Noted.


55 posted on 04/23/2018 8:55:27 AM PDT by poconopundit (MAGA... Get the Spirit. Grow your community. Focus on your Life's Work. Empower the Young.)
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To: OldMissileer

Yeah, I also heard if there are too many 9’s and XYZs in a particular sector, that weight can cause things to get out of whack :- )


56 posted on 04/23/2018 9:01:01 AM PDT by poconopundit (MAGA... Get the Spirit. Grow your community. Focus on your Life's Work. Empower the Young.)
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To: AppyPappy

Thanks. Sounds like that’s the same as creating a Recovery System disk which I am doing now.


57 posted on 04/23/2018 9:02:58 AM PDT by poconopundit (MAGA... Get the Spirit. Grow your community. Focus on your Life's Work. Empower the Young.)
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To: BBB333
It’s interesting that there has been no mention of NOT defragmenting SSD’s - they just don’t like it.

Defragging a spinning hard drive makes sense as the drive head can read the data in a single pass instead of having to reposition the head to different tracks on the drive. Physical motion of the drive head is glacially slow compared to light-speed.

On an SSD, there are no physical moving parts, so if a file is fragmented in several address spaces, a few extra light-speed lookups to assemble the file is not noticeable.

You're right about SSD's not liking rewrites to push data around. SSDs have a finite number of times a storage cell can be modified thru re-write, after which the SSD has to mark off that section of memory as dead. So it's better not to attempt to defrag an SSD and in fact it is beneficial to not do extra writes.

58 posted on 04/23/2018 9:32:44 AM PDT by Flick Lives (F*ck the FBI)
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To: Bikkuri; Flick Lives

Thank you both for your responses.

I made my post as warning to all of the other posters...

Perhaps the OP was weekly doing a defrag...


59 posted on 04/23/2018 10:56:20 AM PDT by BBB333 (The Power Of Trump Compels You!)
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To: ConservativeMind
What crashed was the BIOS software in the SSD.

the BIOS is on the motherboard, not the SSD. Given the age of the PC, perhaps the motherboard battery needs replacing.

60 posted on 04/23/2018 7:08:38 PM PDT by aimhigh (1 John 3:23)
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