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Abraham Lincoln was born on February 12, 1809
VA Viper ^ | 02/11/2018 | Harpygoddess

Posted on 02/12/2018 3:57:10 AM PST by harpygoddess

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To: central_va

61 posted on 02/12/2018 7:59:58 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: DoodleDawg; Mollypitcher1; BroJoeK

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>> “So revisionist history would have us believe.” <<

Bzzzzt!

Loser!
Economics are real, and you can’t make reality blow away every time your brain farts.
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62 posted on 02/12/2018 8:00:34 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

But that wasn’t his greatest concern.


63 posted on 02/12/2018 8:03:45 AM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: editor-surveyor
Economics are real, and you can’t make reality blow away every time your brain farts.

True. But what does reality have to do with Mollypitcher1's claim?

64 posted on 02/12/2018 8:04:07 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Mollypitcher1

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>> “except for the uneducated.” <<

Of which we have a willful abundance! (+ propagandists)
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65 posted on 02/12/2018 8:04:45 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: DoodleDawg

I DO think George Washington deserves a holiday in his honor. I do NOT think MLK deserves one to himself. He is in NO WAY in Washington’s class.


66 posted on 02/12/2018 8:05:26 AM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: DoodleDawg
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You're truly hopeless.
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67 posted on 02/12/2018 8:05:39 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
You're truly hopeless.

And yet when dealing with you I certainly don't feel so.

68 posted on 02/12/2018 8:07:15 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: central_va

How many of those Eastern Block nations willingly asked to join the USSR at the end of WWII. Quite possibly it was the presence of thousands of Soviet solders and hundreds of Soviet tanks within their borders that convinced them to join the USSR. Considerably different circumstances than Mississippi or Texas asking for admission as a state to the Union.


69 posted on 02/12/2018 8:08:13 AM PST by Bull Snipe
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To: DoodleDawg

Your knowledge is limited to your own ego.


70 posted on 02/12/2018 8:08:57 AM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Mollypitcher1
I DO think George Washington deserves a holiday in his honor. I do NOT think MLK deserves one to himself. He is in NO WAY in Washington’s class.

Then why are you complaining about next Monday? That's the Washington Birthday Federal Holiday, and identified by federal law. People call it President's Day but in reality it is still the Washington Birthday holiday.

I'm not going to argue about MLK day. People want holidays for a lot of things I don't agree with. Heck, people down south have Lee/Jackson Day. Go figure.

71 posted on 02/12/2018 8:10:53 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Mollypitcher1
Your knowledge is limited to your own ego.

But based on actual fact. However, don't let me rain on editor-surveyor and your revisionist parade. By all means keep it up. There are more than enough people around here to point out your errors.

72 posted on 02/12/2018 8:12:36 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Salamander

If they can swallow smart cars, I’d be tempted to leave them heh.

I feel your pain though, I pay a large sum in property taxes (why are we paying tax on something we supposedly own?) and our roads are crap too.


73 posted on 02/12/2018 8:13:00 AM PST by Bulwyf
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To: BroJoeK; central_va; DoodleDawg; Mollypitcher1

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>> “Of course, central_va wishes to minimize the existential threat Confederates represented to the United States.” <<

Do you do that low grade comedy act for money?

There was zero “Threat,” the industrial revolution was in the process of demolishing the slave-based economy, and could have accomplished the conversion without mass bloodshed.
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74 posted on 02/12/2018 8:13:27 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
There was zero “Threat,” the industrial revolution was in the process of demolishing the slave-based economy, and could have accomplished the conversion without mass bloodshed.

Now that's comedy! Low grade, but still comedy.

75 posted on 02/12/2018 8:15:18 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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Bulwyf: "I don’t understand how any Constitution believing Conservatives can think that the civil war had a good outcome."

Well, we could start here:

By 1872 the passage of 13th, 14th & 15th amendments added millions of previously disenfranchised voters.

76 posted on 02/12/2018 8:18:33 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: DoodleDawg

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And you’re willfully ignorant, very low grade, but very ignorant.
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77 posted on 02/12/2018 8:19:07 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Of which we have a willful abundance! (+ propagandists)
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Absolutely agree. Most of the time I ignore Doodle Dawg, Except when she gets so outrageous in her propaganda she must be severely corrected.


78 posted on 02/12/2018 8:19:44 AM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: harpygoddess

I was raised in Chicago, so I love Abraham Lincoln. We sang this on every February 12th.

Not without thy wondrous story, Illinois, Illinois,
Can be writ the nation’s glory, Illinois, Illinois,
On the record of thy years,
Abraham Lincoln’s name appears, Grant and Logan, and our tears, Illinois, Illinois,
Grant and Logan, and our tears, Illinois.

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Great grandfather was one of the special judge advocates at the Lincoln Assassination Trial. He was called to DC by Stanton because he’d just gotten the death penalty for the southern conspirators in Indianapolis. GGF wrote about the people’s reaction to Lincoln’s death:

“The gloom of that journey to Washington and the feeling of vague terror and sorrow with which I traversed its streets, I cannot adequately describe, and shall never forget. To this day, I never visit that City without some shadow of that dark time settling over my spirit. All the public buildings and a large portion of the private houses were heavily draped in black. The people moved about the streets with bowed heads and sorrow-stricken faces, as though some Herod had robbed each home of its first born.

“When men spoke to each other in the streets, there were tremulous tones in their voices, and a quivering of the lips, as though tears and violent expression of grief were held back only by great effort. In the faces of those in authority — Cabinet ministers, officers of the army, — there was an anxious expression of the eye as though a dagger’s gleam in a strange hand was to be expected; and a pale determined expression, a set of the jaw that said: “The truth about this conspiracy shall be made clear and the assassins found and punished: we will stand guard and the Government shall not die.”

“For no ruler who ever lived, I venture to say, not excepting Washington himself, was the love of the people so strong, so peculiarly personal and tender, as for Abraham Lincoln. Especially was this so among the soldiers; all members of the old army will remember with what devotion and patriotic affection the boys used to shout and sing, “We are coming, Father Abraham!” and will remember what a personal and confiding sort of relation seemed to exist between the soldier boys and “Uncle Abe”, and how those brave soldiers — veterans of four years of terrible war, inured to hardship, to sickness and wounds, familiar with the face of death — wept like little children when told that “Uncle Abe” was dead.”

http://www.iment.com/maida/familytree/burnett/lincoln.htm


79 posted on 02/12/2018 8:20:52 AM PST by mairdie
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To: Salamander

Before the war of northern aggression: The united States are...

After: the United States is...

Sad.


80 posted on 02/12/2018 8:21:38 AM PST by CodeToad (CWII is coming. Arm Up! They Are!)
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