[BroJoeK]

Bulwyf: "I don’t understand how any Constitution believing Conservatives can think that the civil war had a good outcome."

Well, we could start here:

"Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.
Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure...

...we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain -- that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom -- and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth."

By 1872 the passage of 13th, 14th & 15th amendments added millions of previously disenfranchised voters.

[editor-surveyor]

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And the deliberate twisting of the 14th is adding tens of millions of fraudulent voters.
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[Bulwyf]

Using a quote from a guy who didn’t believe in the constitution is probably not the best way to make a point.

Even still, the votes they got after aren’t enough to affect that large change. That happened later.

[Salamander]

16th Amendment