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Posted on 01/28/2018 1:08:44 AM PST by LibWhacker
"I’m a female in my early 30’s in a european country where guns are absolutely forbidden."Whenever I talk to my friends and express my opinion about firearms they get ballistic and enraged about my views, calling me all sorts and seeing me as a paranoid monster who contributes with my views to gun related deaths and crimes. I think it makes them feel more sophisticated to hate arms.
"The general ideology here is that guns are bad and it’s good they are forbidden for own sake.
"But I don’t understand why I don’t have the right to protect myself should anything happen. Forks can also be used as a deadly weapon, and you don’t see them banned or made illegal. It’s about common sense. But why can a burglar get in my house to rob me and I can’t have the right to a gun for basic protection? How many women, and men, could have saved themselves had they had a gun? How many people raped could have shot their attacker had they had the right to own a gun?
"Having a gun doesn’t mean I’m gonna use it lightly or gonna shoot someone in an argument or in the heat of the moment.
"I just want a weapon to protect myself and my loved ones.
"About 2 years back, while working in a bar, someone came in to rob us, yielding a knife, it was a very scary experience but luckily a couple of boys from the local rugby team were there for drinks and could manage to stop him, we called the police but the guy got away.During the chaos he repeatedly threatened to rape and kill my coworker and I and said he’d come back to get us.
"The police didn’t do much since the guy got away, they just drove around in their car to see if they could find someone matching the description we gave.
"And he indeed came back another day after closing the bar at night when we were alone, but my coworker saw him before he could get in and closed the bar doors, then called the police.
"Until the police arrived he stayed outside throwing tables and chairs on the terrace against the bar window, banging on the door, screaming he was gonna rape and kill us and detailing how, calling us names, saying he had followed us home and knew where we live.
"Again the police came with the sirens on, so the guy run away again. We told the police we feared he’d do something to us and they saw we had a few huge kitchen knives placed all over the bar counter for protection, they advised against it and said we could get in big trouble if we actually used the knives, so we asked if we could buy a couple of pepper sprays for protection, but the police informed us they were illegal to use and could again get us in trouble. Same with teasers or any other weapon for protection.
"We went and bought a couple of pepper sprays anyway, we had to give our ID in the shop where they registered we had bought them, because they are legal to buy but illegal to use.
"During the next weeks we were lucky to have friends who would stay in the bar with us at closing time and would walk us home. Both my coworker and I quit a couple of months later for unrelated reasons, but I’ll never forget what is like having to go to work fearing some crazy weirdo would attack or rape us. I didn’t mention he was identified by the rugby guys as one of the members of a local gang, which made it scarier. We felt real fear for our lives.
"That’s when I started feeling more passionate about guns and the right to protect myself. How come some weirdo can come to rob us, threaten to kill and rape us, and our only protection measure is calling the police and hoping they catch him?
"We couldn’t even protect ourselves with a pepper spray, how outrageous it is that someone could hurt me and I have to let him because I have no other means to protect myself? So, I very much envy other countries where people can feel safe should anything bad happen, they have the means to protect themselves and their families.
"Now I carry a 5 inches pocket knife and a pepper spray in my purse at all times, even knowing if I got attacked and used it to defend myself, I could potentially end up in legal trouble. I’d also get in trouble if I’m randomly searched by the police, since it’s illegal to carry a knife. But I rather pay a fine than being raped and not having a weapon to defend myself. Again my friends think I’m dramatic and should I get raped or attacked that’s why we have a judicial system, to put them people in jail. And then they say you can’t live like a paranoid, living in fear. But don’t see it that way, I acknowledge crimes happen and to me, the logical measure is to have protection, I don’t think I’m a ‘paranoid’ I think I’m aware of the world I live in and my right to have protection should be respected and encouraged.
"As as side note, someone in my town who also had a bar and lived above it, got robbed one night, when he heard noise downstairs and realized he was being robbed, he got a crowbar, went downstairs and beat the shit out of the thief, seriously damaging him, I don’t remember the details but the guy got sent to the hospital badly injured. Now guess who ended up in jail for a long time? The bar owner, for using excessive force and bludgeoning him. Nothing happened to the thief, nothing, no time, nothing!
"The system is f***** up in my country and I am being denied the right to protect myself. The system is in favor of all the wrong people, giving them advantage by depriving us the right to own firearms.
"Now, I’m not a gun fanatic, when I speak about this people compare me to gun fanatics and stereotype me. Now, I lean towards the left (if any), I respect everyone, I pay my taxes and do everything by the book, I work, pay my bills, you have your opinions, I have mine, mine are not better than yours, just mine. You have the right to believe what you want, so do I, but we both have the right to protect our family and loved ones.
"Being pro-gun doesn’t make me a kkk hillbilly with no teeth."
The entire continent has lost its soul. They cannot even construct an argument for defense of their lives as being made in God’s image.
If she leans left, she votes left. Then expects things to change?
Can’t fix stupid.
Obviously the government of your European $Hithole would rather have you raped than anger the members of a minority that they love so much, and upon whom they depend for votes and campaign money.
You don’t count. The votes of certain people do. The politicians are fine with allowing (I meant to say allowing) them to have guns, while you don’t.
Did this happen in a particular european country or just ‘europe?’
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Could be France, or Sweden, Germany, Britain, or Belgium. No right to bear arms AND no right of self defense. Overrun with muzzies.
But she’s not writing from Poland, Hungary, or Czech Republic. They get it, are drafting their own 2nd Amendments, and regard muzzies as the enemy.
So blessed to be on this side of the Pond with our guns, our Bill of Rights, and our anti-muslim attitude backed by Stand Your Ground.
She’s concerned that she doesn’t have access to firearms to protect her against criminals when she should really be concerned about not having firearms to protect her from a tyrannical government- the same government that forces her to be a helpless victim solely dependent on the very state that won’t let her protect herself.
Gun Control Kills
Even here, the police would prefer that we not defend ourselves. Just die, and let them come do the paperwork. I think the real answer for anyone who has to beat some thief or rapist into oblivion is to drag the body out to your van in the night, dump them somewhere, clean up thoroughly, and never, ever report it.
> legal to buy but illegal to use <
That seems to be the case regarding pepper spray in the UK. From a UK police website:
The only fully legal self defence product at the moment is a rape alarm. These are not expensive and can be bought from most local police stations or supermarkets.
There are other self defence products which claim to be legal (e.g. non toxic sprays), however, until a test case is brought before the court, we cannot confirm their legality or endorse them. If you purchase one you must be aware that if you are stopped by the police and have it in your possession there is always a possibility that you will be arrested and detained until the product, its contents and legality can be verified.
https://www.askthe.police.uk/content/Q589.htm
I had two thugs try to break into my motel room at 0430 a few years ago. Once they saw my Glock 23 aimed at them they decided it was a good time to beat a hasty retreat.
> She is just putting forward the image of gun owners that American media has promoted for decades. <
Right you are. I was watching a video out of the UK where a TV host was stopping Brits in the street and asking them to attempt an “American accent”.
“Well, I gotta get my gun and my pickup truck,” one Brit said, affecting a country accent.
As an American, I took that as a compliment, although it certainly wasn’t meant to be one.
Makes no sense to me having police protection,but they won’t act until a crime has been committed,& yet you have no right to protect yourself??? Best to leave that screwed-up country first chance you get.
Makes no sense to me having police protection,but they won’t act until a crime has been committed,& yet you have no right to protect yourself??? Best to leave that screwed-up country first chance you get.
“Now, I lean towards the left (if any), I respect everyone... you have your opinions, I have mine, mine are not better than yours”
A lot of muddled, non judgemental thinking there.
I respect everyone??
You need to move to where they shoot first and ask questions later. :-)
(looking for that infamous photo of the European woman holding a (photo-shopped) sign reading "My legs are open for immigrants!"
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