Posted on 01/16/2018 7:33:52 AM PST by w1n1
My .308 FN Fal is all I need but I would take a .300BLK for my collection. Can’t have to many good weapons.
“except it is good with silencers?”
Remember: .300BLK was created by a silencer manufacturer. Their goal was to build one system performing well from “suppressed .45 equivalent” to “near .308, suppressed” with nothing more than a mag swap.
Wolf offers a really cheap 6.5 Grendel that performs -OK- for 8 or 9 bucks a box. It's steel cased blasting ammo , but it feeds and functions pretty well.
The American Eagle 123 OTM is VERY accurrate, and has really good brass for reloading.
Handloading is where you'll REALLY get the bennies out of the Grendel.
300BO uses the same mag, only have to change the barrel.
Fair points. Storing components leaves more flexibility.
Primers can actually be rebuilt, and smokeless powder can be made.
All depends on the kind of S that comes down.
This all reminds me to go ahead and get a muzzle-loader.
That’s definitely the better solution. For modern equipment, buy cases of completed rounds (everything you need, already packaged). For “make your own primer/powder/projectiles” get a muzzle loader, it will tolerate DIY components much better.
I was referring to switching ammo; yes the mags are the same, which is another benefit - everything but barrel works on both, minimizing component issues.
AR10. 7.62 X 51. This is the best of both worlds. Dang thing is pretty heavy, though.
That’s the problem: weight (and size). For home defense, I’m looking for a short barrel + suppressor + light weight. AR10 is fine if you’re an urban sniper, not so much for repelling home invaders.
Buddy of mine built an Ar-15 that weighs 5 pnds, 3 oz (without mag).
Dang thing feels like a toy.
Ain’t gonna get there with the AR-10 platform.
A 200 gr bullet from the 300 blk has a vel of ~ 1000 fps, roughly the same as a 45 ACP, but in a much larger heavier platform. Whats the point except it is good with silencers?
Also switches to supersonic ammo that is good to 350 yards.
Remember: you wont be making your own primers & powder (those run out, youre done),
Not true. Powder and primers are both being made by hobbyists. Primers are usually considered the difficult part.
http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2016/07/home-reloading-of-percussion-caps-and.html
I agree that it makes sense to stock up now. I think that is one of the reasons for the .22 ammo bubble.
But, if needs be, both powder and primers can be made by individuals.
I think the M1 Carbine is a underrated. But you can get AR platforms at about the same weight.
The AR rifles are more powerful, and they are much, much cheaper and easier to get ammunition for (at least in 5.56). You can make a good case that the M-16 has most of what LTC John George suggested when he asked for a fighting rifle improved over the Carbine and the Garand in “Shots Fired in Anger”.
The M1 Carbine is cool little rifle. Just not quite as versatile and powerful as the AR-15 and various clones.
A 12 gauge pump shotgun is my choice for home invaders.
Apples and Funnel Cakes....
I’m to old and beat up to be going on many patrols where ammo weight is going to be much of a factor.
What’s your choice for space invaders? :)
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