Why the Tax bill will destroy Blue State Republicans AND the national Democrat Party

vanity | November 27, 2017 | Kevin J. Collins

[Mariner]

“then let California taxpayers pay for it”

They, and only THEY pay for it now.

Of course if you actually knew Jack, you would know that.

And I stand ready to hear how you are subsidizing it...

[deadrock]

I live in New York. This bill will raise my taxes. But I am all in favor of it because it is the right thing to do.

Principles are principles....well done.

Up in Canada, they have 'have' and 'have not' provinces. The haves(I believe only Ontario and Alberta) are required to send money to the other provinces. Quebec gets to have there little socialist paradise because of the subsidies it receives from the 'haves.' No need to be financial responsible when you have a sugar daddy.

Which Freeper here thinks this is fair to the financial responsible provinces of Alberta and Ontario? Which Freeper here says Quebec should get more just because they have a vacation home on the St. Lawrence?

[Mariner]

“If the Democrats are going to classify every component of the tax code that lowers your taxes as a “subsidy” “

that’s what REPUBLICANS are doing.

[central_va]

Raising taxes is never a good thing and always results in less federal revenue. Pres. Trump was hamstrung by Paul Ryano. I am sure Mr. Trump wanted across the board tax cuts.

[deadrock]

They get to deduct their state taxes, so no they are not. Nice try.

[central_va]

I agree with what you are saying but please don’t blame Pres. Trump. You know he wanted across the board tax cuts but the sh!+ heads in congress aren’t really supply side Republicans.

[Salvey]

And what of the millions of patriots, families, churches, veterans, and conservatives who live, worship, and raise children in states like CA, NY, MN, NJ, MA, CT, IL, and others?

I guess we're supposed to "take one for the team."

[deadrock]

I missed that. Which income brackets are going up?

[Mariner]

“No need to be financial responsible when you have a sugar daddy.”

CA, NJ, NY and IL subsidize the red states.

They pay more in Federal Income Taxes than they receive back in Federal expenditures of any kind.

This is one of the reasons the poor red states are able to keep their state and local taxes lower.

To include even the behemoth Texas which receives $1.50 in Federal Expenditures for every dollar of Income Tax paid by state residents. The Giant Florida also receives more than it pays.

Of course, if you knew Jack, you would know that already.

[MSF BU]

It looks as though the ‘makers’ are finally taking control of Michigan, Wisconsin, New Hampshire and possibly Pennsylvania. Governor Scott has given the parasite class a very good reason to leave.

[morphing libertarian]

I thought Texas didn’t have astute income tax.

[Mariner]

It’s apparent you don’t know how taxes or itemization or the Federal Budget works.

Of course, if you actually PAID INCOME TAXES you would know more.

[SkyPilot]

I love Trump. I really do. But if he signs a bill into law that will result in a massive tax increase for millions of middle class Americans - then that’s on him. I have quotes of him from his rallies. What this bill would do is the OPPOSITE of what he promised.

[Mariner]

Texas has a state sales tax and more than 25% of all state filers itemize and take that deduction.

[SaxxonWoods]

So, what about purple states? It’s a wash?

[Starboard]

But tax cuts/reform won’t pass. Not this year, not next. The ePubs are trying to hand back both houses to the Dems

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You may be right. The GOP snatches defeat from the jaws victory time and time again. The Gutless Old Party prefers following over leading.

That said, the congress as a whole is suffering from scandals and pathetically low ratings. The GOP in particular is widely seen as inept and unable to do anything.

Because its image has been so severely damaged of late, I think there’s a chance the bruised congress could pass some watered down form of tax legislation just to distract from their own problems. It won’t be much, but it will be enough for them to go back home and declare victory instead of being badgered by endless questions about their scandals and ineptitude.

[angry elephant]

I think that each individual should be able to claim $10,000 deduction for the SALT that they paid.

That could be their state income tax, property tax or sales tax or a combination. In Washington state we have high property tax but no income tax. Some states have low property tax but have an income tax.

[deadrock]

This is one of the reasons the poor red states are able to keep their state and local taxes lower.

The main reason is they are financial responsible.

Do you think it is fair for Alberta/Ontario or do you have a home on the St. Lawrence?

[Mariner]

“In Washington state we have high property tax but no income tax”

You also have a very high sales tax...something near 8.5%.

And for those in the state that itemize they can either keep receipts or use the standard IRS table to deduct those sales taxes.

[SaxxonWoods]

Geez, you switch to Democrat easily.

I keed, I keed!