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Australian official: ‘Look at the template of our laws and challenge the NRA’
guns.com ^ | Oct. 4, 2017 | Brian Seay

Posted on 10/04/2017 12:53:15 PM PDT by PROCON

While authorities investigate and Americans seek answers in the wake of Sunday’s massacre in Las Vegas, Australia is offering to help the U.S. reshape its gun laws.

Following a mass shooting in Port Arthur in 1996 that left 35 people dead, Australian officials enacted major gun control legislation. Now officials are offering to help America do the same, according to a cable news station based in Singapore.

“What we can offer is our experience,” said Australian Foreign Minister Julie Bishop, talking about her country’s gun buyback program and subsequent ban on semi-automatic and automatic weapons.

“But at the end of the day it’s going to be up to the United States legislators and lawmakers, and the United States public, to change the laws to ensure this type of incident doesn’t happen again,” she said.

Nearly 661,000 firearms were sold back to the Australian government and subsequently destroyed in the aftermath of the Port Arthur massacre. In addition to weapons bans, they enacted a minimum ownership age and required licenses to own firearms.

“We haven’t had a massacre since,” wrote Australian broadcaster Richard Glover in the Washington Post Tuesday. “We, of course, know we could still experience a massacre. We are not smug. We’re grateful about our luck.”

On his radio program this week, Glover asked Tim Fischer, Australia’s deputy prime minister in the mid-1990’s, about the political backlash he received when he took on the gun lobby in his country.

“Lynched in effigy, but no real harm done,” Fischer said, describing a demonstration in 1996 where angry protestors destroyed a dummy made to look like him. In a state election soon after, Fischer’s party, which represented many farmers in the country, lost 12 seats to a pro-gun party, but eventually regained all lost political support. Fischer says it was worth it.

“We had the courage on both sides of the aisle in the House of Representatives…to make the stand we made,” Fischer said. “The vast majority of Australians came to accept the outcome.”

The country continues to accept the move. Just last weekend, Australians finished turning in an estimated 26,000 guns in the first national firearm amnesty since the sweeping reforms more than two decades ago. Australians were able to legally hand in unregistered weapons without giving personal details over a three month period. Aussies caught carrying an unregistered gun face a hefty fine and up to 14 years behind bars.

Fischer said Australians should think twice about coming to America for vacation, something he said after last summer’s massacre at a gay night club in Orlando. He also said the White House is wrong to say now isn’t the time for gun control.

“Now is exactly the time,” he said, adding, “the U.S.A. as a whole should take our laws and look at the template of our laws and challenge the NRA.”

Gun rights activists argue the crime rate increased following the gun ban as well as murders of other sorts. While the country experienced a surge in sexual assaults and robberies immediately following the gun ban, overall crime by 2012 dropped back down to pre-ban levels, crime data shows.

However, a 2016 study shows that gun deaths as well as non-gun deaths have declined in Australia, but researchers said the results may be because of improvements in technology like cell phones rather than the legislation. Rates in the U.S. also followed similar trends in that same time frame.


TOPICS: Government; Military/Veterans; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: australia; banglist; gunconfiscation; gungrabers
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To: PROCON

The Second Amendment is not a law.

Australia is not a State in the Union.


41 posted on 10/04/2017 1:56:23 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - JRRT)
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To: PROCON

“.....from our cold dead hands.”

Kiss off, Aussies, mind your own business.


42 posted on 10/04/2017 1:57:15 PM PDT by RooRoobird20 ("Democrats haven't been this angry since Republicans freed the slaves.")
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To: PROCON

Some Aussies are just dills. (A little Australian lingo).


43 posted on 10/04/2017 2:06:45 PM PDT by windsorknot
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To: PROCON
Dear Disarmed Australia,

BRING IT! BRING IT! BRING IT!

We are armed. You are not. We will not disarm. Go back "down under" and shut up, the adults are handing this.

44 posted on 10/04/2017 2:08:09 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Trump won; we got Gorsuch and a bit of the MAGA agenda. But now the Swamp is back in control.)
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To: PROCON

Gaze at your navel and contemplate life in a ‘Rat Urban Utopia.


45 posted on 10/04/2017 2:18:12 PM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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To: backwoods-engineer
I'm on a few Australian blogs and the good people there were stabbed in the back by their politicians.

Now the muzzies are running amok there, causing all kinds of typical muzzie trouble and all they can do is call the police.

46 posted on 10/04/2017 2:18:27 PM PDT by PROCON (#MAGA)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Criminals in Australia are heavily armed. Honest citizens are not. Guess who wins.


47 posted on 10/04/2017 2:35:22 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (Progressivism is 2 year olds in a poop fight.)
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To: SES1066

The founders established gun rights as protection from government seizure of guns.


48 posted on 10/04/2017 2:39:42 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (Progressivism is 2 year olds in a poop fight.)
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To: freedumb2003

““Now is exactly the time,” he said, adding, “the U.S.A. as a whole should take our laws and look at the template of our laws and challenge the NRA.”

Oh Julie arent you so proud of disarming a noble and heroic people. Thats just grand.

Shove your template.


49 posted on 10/04/2017 3:15:05 PM PDT by Bonemaker
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To: PROCON
The article mentions Australia having to "fight" their own gun lobby when they passed gun confiscation.

Our gun lobby (armed Americans who will defend the Constitution) will FIGHT with their weapons, if need be.

Confiscations will cost communists in all institutions dearly. Game on.

50 posted on 10/04/2017 3:21:06 PM PDT by nonsporting
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To: Jonty30

“The Australian minister is pro low level terrorism committed by the predators in his population”

Same as our democrats. Disarm the settlers in Apache country or the white farmers in South Africa and Rhodesia, etc.


51 posted on 10/04/2017 3:21:39 PM PDT by Bonemaker
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To: mrmeyer

“When the chicoms move on Australia, I won’t be lending a firearm to defend an Australian home”

Just like early WW2 when the Brits were begging for small arms. NRA had a donation program for its members and tens of thousands did. At the end of the war instead of returning them to the US they dumped them in the ocean.

I wouldn’t give them the steam off a January sidewalk turd. Same for you Australia. Eat me,


52 posted on 10/04/2017 3:31:42 PM PDT by Bonemaker
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To: PROCON

No, thanks. We plan on never having a totalitarian government.


53 posted on 10/04/2017 3:55:25 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Conservatives love America for what it is. Liberals hate America for the same reason.)
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To: PROCON

The NRA has millions of members whose interest they represent. The NRA isn’t some billionaire like George Soros with an agenda funding violent hate groups like antifa.


54 posted on 10/04/2017 4:02:00 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Conservatives love America for what it is. Liberals hate America for the same reason.)
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To: PROCON; All
Justin Moore - This is NRA Country
55 posted on 10/04/2017 4:26:54 PM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: PROCON

62million of us say to Australian busybodies GFY and mind your own damn business. If we wanted to live in an hysterically antigun tyranny we’d move to your venomous little sh!thole of a country.


56 posted on 10/04/2017 5:16:44 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: PROCON

“”Nearly 661,000 firearms were sold back to the Australian government and subsequently destroyed in the aftermath of the Port Arthur massacre. In addition to weapons bans, they enacted a minimum ownership age and required licenses to own firearms.
“We haven’t had a massacre since,””

I guess that’s quotes from two different people but both are pretty ridiculous... The first one seems stuck more on the number of guns sold back to the government (throughout the article) and the second one seems to think if guns haven’t been used IN A MASSACRE, their stupid gun laws made all the sense in the world. I guess we needed to learn that guns are only used to MASSACRE people! Who would have known?


57 posted on 10/04/2017 5:22:40 PM PDT by Thank You Rush
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