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In Houston Area 911 Not Responding – Pleas For Help Over Social Media
IWB ^ | Ruby Henley

Posted on 08/28/2017 6:32:35 AM PDT by davikkm

At this time 911 is not responding, and pleas for help are going out on social media.

https://a.msn.com/r/2/AAqOnSF?m=en-us

When the rainfall turned torrential late Saturday night, and water began pouring into his living room, KeRon Hooey sloshed down the block to the highest ground in the neighborhood: his neighbor’s two-story house.

He and 10 others, including two elderly neighbors, spent the night on the second floor, watching the waters rising out of the nearby Buffalo Bayou and spreading across their quiet subdivision, Wood Shadows II.

All night, Hooey dialed emergency numbers – 911, 311, the Coast Guard, local police stations – only to find wait times of more than two hours, or lines so busy that his calls were dropped. So he turned to Twitter.

“Entire Wood Shadows II neighborhood is under water,” Hooey wrote in a Tweet posted at 4:23 a.m. Then he shared his address.

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TOPICS: Weather
KEYWORDS: 911; emergency911; harvey; houston; hurricaneharvey; preppers; socialmedia; texas
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To: RummyChick

an evacuation has to be planned... the last time they did an evacuation... there was bumper to bumper traffic for 150 miles (all the way from Houston to Austin)...which means that you would have a worse situation with a bunch of people and vehicles stranded along the highway in high water.

if you aren’t from here... you don’t know what is going on... so please refrain from commenting. It doesn’t help anything.


61 posted on 08/28/2017 11:53:22 AM PDT by willyd (I for one welcome our NSA overlords)
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To: Sasparilla

Same here, I’ve never seen a ham ping list. I’d like to be on it if it exists.


62 posted on 08/28/2017 12:29:40 PM PDT by DocRock (And now is the time to fight! Peter Muhlenberg)
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To: willyd

I have been through a houston hurricane...and I would have evacuated on this one depending on where I lived.


63 posted on 08/28/2017 1:00:29 PM PDT by RummyChick (can we switch Don,Jr for Prince Kush and his flak jacket. From Yacht Party to Warzone ready to wear.)
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To: willyd

Btw..down playing the severity to residents is wrong..and it will come back to bite them

Just like the nursing home with elderly in waist deep water


64 posted on 08/28/2017 1:03:10 PM PDT by RummyChick (can we switch Don,Jr for Prince Kush and his flak jacket. From Yacht Party to Warzone ready to wear.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

There is a difference between telling people they MUST evacuate and telling them they should STAY. As I heard it, this mayor told people to ignore the Governor-trust him instead-and NOT leave. Of course no one was prevented from evacuating, but hearing a Mayor say NOT to would tend to make trusting sorts feel safe. I think he’s criminally liable and would make a good companion for Ray-Ray Nagin in jail.


65 posted on 08/28/2017 1:05:24 PM PDT by ClearBlueSky (ISLAM is the problem. ISLAM is the enemy of civilization.)
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To: bgill

Oh yeah- it would be a ton of fun to hear weather folk talking about Laquishanda and Qua’travion(watch those apostrophes!) Who wouldn’t run from a storm named Demoniquesha?


66 posted on 08/28/2017 1:10:21 PM PDT by ClearBlueSky (ISLAM is the problem. ISLAM is the enemy of civilization.)
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To: RummyChick
I just dont get why people on this site ignored that a dem mayor might lie..and that you might get 50 inches..and not 20.

I live here, and I don't think he lied, Democrat or Republican.

Early on, the models were uncertain. They were a spaghetti bowl of paths; some of them went north, others went back into the gulf, and a few stalled at various locations. This was the definition of the "worst case scenario;" the storm stalled west of Houston and the "dirty side" kept throwing bands of rain at us. It really is a "black swan" event, a 500 year flood, if you will.

Nobody acts on the <1% probability event. They note it, they may have a contingency in place just in case, but you plan for the >10% probability scenarios.

I think it's a very real possibility that they remember the evacuation of Rita (photos of stalled cars on the freeway are posted elsewhere), and were more afraid of a scene like the Roman chariots in the Red Sea from The Ten Commandments.

You have to remember that Houston is flat, and the ground is mostly clay-based soil that doesn't absorb water too well. The Houston freeway system is designed to be a water catch-basin to prevent the neighborhoods from flooding during "normal" storms. I shudder at the thought of evacuating people stuck on the freeways as the water from Harvey begins to fill the roadways.

This was a no-win situation for decision-makers. For every possible decision, the downside greatly outweighed upside.

-PJ

67 posted on 08/28/2017 1:37:49 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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To: Boomer
I'm in southern Montgomery County (Woodlands area), and I must say... I've been sporadically listening to the 2m and 7cm bands and there has been little to no traffic on the local repeaters.

Some of the Skywarn storm chaser frequencies had some activity, but the amateur bands have been mostly silent.

That surprised me.

-PJ

68 posted on 08/28/2017 1:44:51 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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To: Sacajaweau
I’m still trying to figure out why people don’t just take a week’s vacation out of the path of Harvey
69 posted on 08/28/2017 1:46:06 PM PDT by EVO X
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To: EVO X; Sacajaweau

Not sure what what happen to my comment in post 69. Most people can’t just decided to take a week off anytime they want. Lots of people live paycheck to paycheck. People providing critical services can’t just say I am taking the week off either. That includes the convenience store clerk selling bottled water, etc.


70 posted on 08/28/2017 1:55:33 PM PDT by EVO X
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To: Political Junkie Too

Nasa had up a prediction days ago of up to 50 Inches in Houston


71 posted on 08/28/2017 1:58:37 PM PDT by RummyChick (can we switch Don,Jr for Prince Kush and his flak jacket. From Yacht Party to Warzone ready to wear.)
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To: RummyChick
One of many, I'm sure. There is also NOAA, NWS, and NHC, and the local meteorologists who interpret that data.

Out here, they were relying on the "hurricane hunter" planes that flew into the storm, and the various models and historic tracks.

Early last week, Harvey was being reported as a tropical wave that was crossing the Yucatan Peninsula into the Bay of Campeche. The forecast was for Harvey to cross into Mexico, with a slight chance of it going north into the Gulf. By Wednesday, Harvey went into the Gulf and became a tropical depression, and Thursday it became a tropical storm when an eye developed.

I recall on Wednesday that landfall was not predicted until late Saturday night, but when we all woke up on Thursday morning, the latest report was that Harvey rapidly intensified and accelerated forecasts by 18 hours. By Thursday afternoon, Harvey was a Category 1 hurricane, forecast to be a Category 3 when it made landfall at Corpus Christi. By Friday, it became a Category 4 hurricane and made landfall 30 miles to the east in the early hours of Saturday morning.

An honest accounting of this has to recognize that Houston civil agencies only realistically had between Wednesday and Friday to act. There was no time to organize a mandatory evacuation, given that everyone was working a normal weekday on Wednesday, doing normal hurricane preparations during their off hours.

This was a storm that appeared with little warning, accelerated rapidly close to shore, then hit and stalled at the worst possible location. Nobody had time to mobilize anything with such short warning.

-PJ

72 posted on 08/28/2017 2:21:44 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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To: davikkm
It's sad that this is the story they chose to write.

I posted yesterday that many who were rescued by citizen boats said, "I hesitated calling 911 because I didn't want to take a seat from someone more in need."

That's the story of how Houston is persevering.

-PJ

73 posted on 08/28/2017 2:45:37 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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To: Chgogal

“Where do Democrats think 3 feet of rain is going to go?”


Into the spot where Nancy Pelosi’s brain used to be?

Or, perhaps, into the Pacific Ocean, in order to tip over Guam?


More seriously, I’m not sure that ordering or suggesting an evacuation of a city of 2.5 million that sits in the middle of a county of over 6 million people would have been very smart. Oh, sure, anyone on the leading edge of that evac would have gotten out. But what about when the freeway turns into the Parking Lot from Hell? What about when some douche-nozzle who got on the road with 2 gallons in his tank runs out of fuel while idling, thereby tying up traffic even more? Or some moron tries to cut someone off to save 5 seconds of travel time causes an accident. Then what happens when the local roads and freeways get flooded, while jammed to the gills with people in their cars?

That is the very definition of a clusterfu&*. It would have been worse than what actually happened. I’m afraid that this was a lose-lose situation for not only the mayor of Houston, but for its people, too.

IMHO, you either hunker down or get out way early. Dealing with both a near-Biblical flood AND massive crowding is a recipe for getting dead.


74 posted on 08/28/2017 3:46:16 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: pabianice

From what I have read, Galveston only had ten inches of rain. Houston 25-50 inches in various places.


75 posted on 08/28/2017 5:22:00 PM PDT by SaraJohnson ( Whites must sue for racism. It's pay day.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

Sorry, but most credible forecasts showed SE Houston with 50 inches of rain. This is incompetence.


76 posted on 08/28/2017 6:29:15 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The largest and most dangerous hate-group in the US is now the Democratic Party)
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To: Erik Latranyi
I just posted this on another thread. This conversation needs the context of a timeline.


This Wikipedia timeline says that Harvey wasn't even a tropical depression on Tuesday. It was still a disorganized tropical wave.


When did these credible forecasts happen? On Tuesday? Wednesday? Thursday?

Harvey was just a tropical wave in the Bay of Campeche off of the Yucatan Peninsula on Tuesday. Nobody was credibly forecasting rain in Houston from it on Tuesday.

It wasn't until Thursday that Harvey became a hurricane, and it rapidly grew in intensity about 18 hours faster than people forecasted.

So when was it that people were supposed to start planning for an evacuation? Thursday?

-PJ

77 posted on 08/28/2017 6:41:32 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

See true pundit...turns out rebecca reisig was telling the truth about dem Mayer being warned ..straight from army corps of engineers


78 posted on 08/29/2017 4:51:47 AM PDT by RummyChick (can we switch Don,Jr for Prince Kush and his flak jacket. From Yacht Party to Warzone ready to wear.)
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To: davikkm

We should not spend vital federal resources in large blue cities.


79 posted on 08/29/2017 5:17:52 AM PDT by Mashood
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To: Political Junkie Too

Joe Bastardi from Weatherbell.com was forecasting almost exactly what happened already on Wednesday.


80 posted on 08/29/2017 8:40:21 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The largest and most dangerous hate-group in the US is now the Democratic Party)
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