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California Could Start Jailing People Who Don’t Use Transgender Pronouns
The Daily Caller ^ | August 25, 2017 | Anders Hagstrom

Posted on 08/27/2017 4:36:32 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

A bill that passed the California state senate and is now moving through the Assembly could threaten jail time for anyone who refuses to use a transgender person’s preferred pronoun.

The law is currently limited in its effects to nursing homes and intermediate-care facilities, but if passed, those who “willfully and repeatedly” refuse “to use a transgender resident’s preferred name or pronouns” could be slapped with a $1,000 fine and up to one year in prison, according to the California Heath and Safety code. The state senate passed the bill 26-12 at the end of May. Since then, the Assembly Judiciary committee recommended the bill unanimously and the General Assembly held its first hearing on the legislation Wednesday.

“How can you believe in free speech, but think the government can compel people to use certain pronouns when talking to others?” Greg Burt of the California Family Council testified in July. “This is not tolerance. This is not love. This is not mutual respect. True tolerance tolerates people with different views. We need to treat each other with respect, but respect is a two-way street. It is not respectful to threaten people with punishment for having sincerely held beliefs that differ from your own.”

Titled the “Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender Long-Term Care Facility Residents Bill of Rights,” the legislation also requires nursing homes and care facilities to allow residents to use the bathroom of their choice, regardless of biological sex. The bill’s author, state Sen. Scott Weiner, argues that religious views don’t hold weight in public areas.

“Everyone is entitled to their religious view,” Weiner said. “But when you enter the public space, when you are running an institution, you are in a workplace, you are in a civil setting, and you have to follow the law.”

Experts argue it is “pretty unlikely that, if this law is enacted, such prohibitions would be limited just to this [nursing home] scenario,” UCLA First Amendment scholar Eugene Volokh told National Review. Volokh speculates that lawmakers chose to apply the bill to nursing homes not because there is an overabundance of transgender seniors in the state, but because the demographic group is likely to garner sympathy.

The bill is one of several pieces of gender discrimination legislation moving through California’s Congress this summer. The body is also considering mandatory transgender training programs for companies that have more than 50 employees, CBS Sacramento reported.

While that legislation doesn’t punish those who refuse to use gender identity pronouns, it does affirm the right to transgender people to be called what they wish.

Both bills await decision in the Assembly.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: bluestates; california; californication; democrats; freedomofspeech; homosexualagenda; language; liberalfascism; linguisticgymnastics; orwell; pinkswastikas; speechcodes; transgenders
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To: Ray76
It’s absurd and patently un-Constitutional.

As if that'll stop the courts from ruling in its favor.

Obamacare anyone?

41 posted on 08/27/2017 6:11:14 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How is this even legal?


42 posted on 08/27/2017 6:11:15 PM PDT by EdnaMode
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I hope so. The absurdity of the Rats needs to be allowed to evolve to absolute insanity in order to awaken more voters to the Trump side.


43 posted on 08/27/2017 6:27:02 PM PDT by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I only have two words to describe my feelings toward their mental illness; eff them.


44 posted on 08/27/2017 6:27:11 PM PDT by Boomer (Have RINO republican pols been radicalized somehow?)
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To: a fool in paradise

To the rats, what the Supremes decide is irrelevant. The will make arrests regardless.


45 posted on 08/27/2017 6:41:02 PM PDT by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: BBell

Indeed, but they would have to have one of their saner moments.

If this flies, thought crime is right around the corner.


46 posted on 08/27/2017 6:45:39 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Well, good morning, TransQueer!

See, I'm good! That meets the Pronoun Requirement!

47 posted on 08/27/2017 7:29:09 PM PDT by TRY ONE (I never got the memo changing the name of Global Warming to Klimate Change)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

My solution: Call everyone, male or female, “bubba”. Or, if this triggers anti-southerners, change to “buttface”.


48 posted on 08/27/2017 7:36:28 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Fine, I’ll just stop using the proper pronoun and substitute, “Hey, Weirdo!”


49 posted on 08/27/2017 7:59:27 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (April 2006 Message from Dan http://www.dansimmons.com/news/message/2006_04.htm)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Democrats: the party of perverts, sickos and deviants.

Catering to the sub half 1%.


50 posted on 08/27/2017 8:06:38 PM PDT by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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To: onedoug

Now you can incarcerate the average moron, simply by initiating a conversation on transgender pronouns.

Better yet, ask the average moron to define ‘pronoun’......

It boggles the mind.


51 posted on 08/27/2017 9:09:06 PM PDT by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: onedoug

Hell it is not only there. My daughter had to listen to this sh*t from an advisor during the freshmen orientation at WAKE FOREST UNIVERSITY in Winston Salem NC, implying that it they didn’t use the “correct” pronoun with them “the instructor, educator, professor, advisor” there could be implications and problems for the students. In addition, everyone in leadership kept complaining and and worrying everyone about the dire straights that Trump has left the country in with “his” racist actions and comments about Charlottsville, Va saying dangerous times on campuses will be on his and his fault...actually they are blaming the wrong president...the one at fought left in Jan 2017 and he has been building this fire for over 8 years and is now fanning it in the “dark” from the sidelines - unfortunately. She was very upset and honestly scared and intimidated by all the words and the shear volume and tone of it by the fact it was coming from the very top down over and over and repeated again and again...real indoctrination...to get in line and tow the line and shut up or get out.


52 posted on 08/27/2017 9:13:36 PM PDT by ldish (Have had enough...you??????)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Weiner or Wiener is a f*cking nut case and show be put into one of these “transgendered homes for the gender confused”, permanently.

Backup plan - put him in with Charles Manson. Oh what a lovely bunch of coconuts, they are.


53 posted on 08/27/2017 9:31:10 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Transgender nurse: Address me as a woman, grandpa, or I’ll call the cops and have you arrested.

Old man: Just try it, honey, and I’ll kick you in the balls.


54 posted on 08/27/2017 9:35:01 PM PDT by The Fop (God Bless Donald Trump, Frank Sinatra, Joan Rivers, and the Fightin' Rat Pack Wing of the GOP)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Now we know why everyone in Communist Russia was addressed as Comrade.


55 posted on 08/27/2017 11:36:25 PM PDT by itsahoot (As long as there is money to be divided, there will be division.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“Everyone is entitled to their religious view,” Weiner said. “But when you enter the public space, when you are running an institution, you are in a workplace, you are in a civil setting, and you have to follow the law.”

So, can we assume this guy is all for arresting/deporting illegals and prosecuting/jailing those who try to protect them from the law?

It gets so damn confusing sometimes....

56 posted on 08/28/2017 3:50:16 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Oh PLEEEEEEEEEEEEZE do it. Please put Democrat insanity on the national stage for all to see.


57 posted on 08/28/2017 5:46:04 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: All

The people that SERIOUSLY propose such nonsense should be hanged.


58 posted on 08/28/2017 5:49:57 AM PDT by Maverick68
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just what is one supposed to call a sick bastard


59 posted on 08/28/2017 6:04:41 AM PDT by okie 54
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Use, ENINITY on the weak -minded liberals!

An entity is something that exists as itself, as a subject or as an object, actually or potentially, concretely or abstractly, physically or not. It need not be of material existence. Wikipedia


60 posted on 08/28/2017 6:36:33 AM PDT by GOYAKLA (" Winning not Whining"!)
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