Posted on 07/01/2017 10:21:59 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
I think this is less a matter of Behar imputing her own morality to Jesus than channeling the broad secular sense of him as a supremely chill dude whose chief virtue is that he Does Not Judge. Thats a weird read on a religious figure who speaks many times of hell in the gospels but thats our culture, for better or worse.
She may not even be the most confused person here. Two other panelists press Jack Phillips, the baker, on the idea that hes being judgey with gay couples, with one imagining that Christ might disapprove of their wedding but would tell them Im going to love you anyways. Well yes, thats how Christianity works. But the issue, of course, isnt whether Phillips is judging his customers or whether he loves his gay neighbors, its whether he should be conscripted by the state into participating in an event which his faith doesnt condone. The guys not claiming that gay couples are less moral than any other variety of sinners, only that the act of marriage between them is a sin which he doesnt want to be made complicit in. Jedediah Bila asks him at one point if hed refuse to make cakes for other sinners, like adulterers. She doesnt get a square answer, but Im guessing if you asked Phillips to make you a torte for a weekend tryst with your mistress (inscription: Heres to Cheating!), yeah, hed probably turn you down.
Note, by the way, how often he and especially his lawyer try to steer the conversation away from religion and towards the idea of cake-making as art. At one point the lawyer even describes the wedding cake as a canvas. Thats a smart argument legally, as youre on much firmer ground before the Supreme Court arguing free speech than you are arguing free exercise. If Phillips can convince Anthony Kennedy that Colorados antidiscrimination law is essentially compelling him to utter a statement he disagrees with, hes got a real chance.
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You are correct!
Demonic possession,, The Dems own it.. noodles like Joy prove it.
Romans Chapter 1 (Douay-Rheims version)
[26]For this cause God delivered them up to shameful affections. For their women have changed the natural use into that use which is against nature. [27] And, in like manner, the men also, leaving the natural use of the women, have burned in their lusts one towards another, men with men working that which is filthy, and receiving in themselves the recompense which was due to their error. [28] And as they liked not to have God in their knowledge, God delivered them up to a reprobate sense, to do those things which are not convenient; [29] Being filled with all iniquity, malice, fornication, avarice, wickedness, full of envy, murder, contention, deceit, malignity, whisperers, [30] Detractors, hateful to God, contumelious, proud, haughty, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
[31] Foolish, dissolute, without affection, without fidelity, without mercy. [32] Who, having known the justice of God, did not understand that they who do such things, are worthy of death; and not only they that do them, but they also that consent to them that do them.
>>[26]For this cause God delivered them up to shameful affections...
For what cause?
Few carpenters double as bakers.
2) Does this particular exercise of that freedom harm anyone? For example, throwing gays off a building would do harm. Not baking a cake wont do harm unless that makes it difficult to get a cake.
To be sure that freedom of religion does not come back to bite us, we must declare Islam to NOT be a religion. Because the "free exercise thereof" includes forced conversions and killing Infidels (as well as queers).
[21]Because that, when they knew God, they have not glorified him as God, or given thanks; but became vain in their thoughts, and their foolish heart was darkened. [22] For professing themselves to be wise, they became fools. [23] And they changed the glory of the incorruptible God into the likeness of the image of a corruptible man, and of birds, and of fourfooted beasts, and of creeping things. [24] Wherefore God gave them up to the desires of their heart, unto uncleanness, to dishonour their own bodies among themselves. [25] Who changed the truth of God into a lie; and worshipped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
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