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GraceG

Posted on 05/10/2017 11:23:56 PM PDT by GraceG

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To: abigkahuna

One of the Carlson points which I always find interesting is that you can readily point out in the past one-million years....50 big climate changes of a catastrophic nature.

Not just a thousand, or ten-thousand people dying.

As he suggests...man might be able to do some minor things, but until we acknowledge the 50 events and how society came very close to dying out with no inter-action by mankind...only then can we move ahead.

Carlson does point out, and I readily agree with that logic, that we ought to clean up our rivers, lakes and streams...and try to lessen air pollution. I think on those points....he’s right. Lot of constructive things that we can do without creating a fake science.


21 posted on 05/11/2017 3:25:58 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: GraceG
Don't forget the effects of changes in the Earth's Orbital Plane, Tilt, and Wobble.
All these have an effect on the earth's temperature.
Watch an informed man's video on these factors and you'll begin to get a feel for those changes, all of which are cyclical.
22 posted on 05/11/2017 3:46:43 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest

Great, not only are we tipping over Guam, we are tipping the earth too. When will we ever learn.


23 posted on 05/11/2017 4:01:08 AM PDT by pas
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To: abigkahuna
"Go to https//SacredGeometryInternational.com There, Randall Carlson as a five part essay on the role of carbon in our atmosphere."

I recently stumbled across his work on YouTube. He has a lot of material there.

24 posted on 05/11/2017 4:17:00 AM PDT by Flag_This (Liberals are locusts.)
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To: Bob434
CO2 i nthe atmosphere as a direct result of man takes up just 0.00136%

Before fossil fuels: 280 ppm or 0.028% of the atmosphere. After fossil: 400ppm. Man's contribution is 0.012% Your number is about the amount of manmade increase every 5 years.

25 posted on 05/11/2017 4:17:40 AM PDT by palmer (turn into nonpaper w no identifying heading and send nonsecure)
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To: dr_lew

That’s because CO2 doesn’t keep our planet warm, N2 and O2 do that. The CO2 does capture outgoing IR and transfer it to the N2 and O2. Mars is missing the N2 and O2.


26 posted on 05/11/2017 4:19:46 AM PDT by palmer (turn into nonpaper w no identifying heading and send nonsecure)
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To: pas
Watch the video, and knock off the sarcasm.
Watch some REAL orbital science, and not that "GLOBAL WARMING CRAP" the the stupid push on us to rob our wallets and our freedoms.
27 posted on 05/11/2017 4:21:12 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: GraceG

I just expelled some greenhouse gases from my posterior. Does that make me an enemy of the state?


28 posted on 05/11/2017 4:21:13 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: GraceG
At 180PPM CO2 plant life begins to die off quickly.
29 posted on 05/11/2017 4:22:13 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: palmer
Before fossil fuels:

Ahh. But are CO2 from natural sources not taken into account? The explosion of Java and Pinatubo did not contribute to the increase

30 posted on 05/11/2017 4:30:45 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
"Does that make me an enemy of the state?"

It makes you a likely candidate to be fitted with a government-owned "methane harvester." I've heard they're somewhat uncomfortable to wear.

31 posted on 05/11/2017 4:39:12 AM PDT by Flag_This (Liberals are locusts.)
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To: GraceG

I just ask if they’ve heard of Greenland and how it gots it’s name and that it’s now covered in ice.


32 posted on 05/11/2017 4:42:49 AM PDT by stockpirate (There is a coup in progress, catch them, try them, HANG THEM ALL TREASON)
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To: GraceG
I remember the words of Hillary when this Climate Change cr** started. Gore became the designated hitter.

Hillary said this Climate Cr** was to engage younger future voters and they sure have marketed it to them from the Penguin walk to Green shirts at school.

Gonna write a children's book....Facts and Farts!!

33 posted on 05/11/2017 4:58:03 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Telepathic Intruder
These same scientists were absolutely stunned that the good bugs ate the oil in the Gulf like a hungry dog after the oil blow out.

Yet these same scientists are the same that recommend "bugging" old gas station sites in cleanup scenarios.

They will simply produce the results the government wants you to see. It's called "Selective Science Method".....aka.....lying your a** off.

34 posted on 05/11/2017 5:02:46 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: central_va
No the lowball figure comes from comparing natural biological CO2 sources with manmade sources. In that case the biological sources are about 20 times manmade. But the biosphere is also a sink and, not coincidentally about the same as the bio source. IOW, man's is all source, very little sink, biological is 50 50. The net annual rise therefore is 100% manmade.

Volcanoes are an asterisk. Pinatubo was equal to a day or two of manmade CO2.

35 posted on 05/11/2017 5:28:41 AM PDT by palmer (turn into nonpaper w no identifying heading and send nonsecure)
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To: central_va
Yes, we were in CO2 starvation during the last ice age. The only thing saving the planet is the dryness and ice from the ice age limiting the weathering that reduces atmospheric CO2. Once the plant life dies, CO2 starts to rise with any amount of ocean warming (which releases CO2).

The bottom line is manmade CO2 is unequivocally good.

36 posted on 05/11/2017 5:31:55 AM PDT by palmer (turn into nonpaper w no identifying heading and send nonsecure)
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To: palmer
The net annual rise therefore is 100% manmade.

Horse hockey. This is an opinion and not proven fact.

Besides there is no such thing as man made - the stored hydrocarbons were once biologic creatures, so it is all natural. Unless you believe in abiogenic petroleum which has not been disproven IMO. I consider it a a viable theory.

37 posted on 05/11/2017 5:35:03 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Nailbiter
"retarded dinosaurs"


38 posted on 05/11/2017 5:43:00 AM PDT by bar sin·is·ter
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To: central_va

Something tells me those gassed weren’t green.


39 posted on 05/11/2017 5:45:31 AM PDT by bar sin·is·ter
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To: bar sin·is·ter

I thought “climate change” was a dead horse, why keep beating it?


40 posted on 05/11/2017 5:46:33 AM PDT by DaveA37
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