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To: Bob434
CO2 i nthe atmosphere as a direct result of man takes up just 0.00136%

Before fossil fuels: 280 ppm or 0.028% of the atmosphere. After fossil: 400ppm. Man's contribution is 0.012% Your number is about the amount of manmade increase every 5 years.

25 posted on 05/11/2017 4:17:40 AM PDT by palmer (turn into nonpaper w no identifying heading and send nonsecure)
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Before fossil fuels:

Ahh. But are CO2 from natural sources not taken into account? The explosion of Java and Pinatubo did not contribute to the increase

30 posted on 05/11/2017 4:30:45 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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no it isn’t palmer- man’s respionsibility amounts to 3.8% of the TOTAL amount of all greenhosue gases and CO2- naqtural and manmade- that amount is 0.04%

3.8% of 0.04% = 0.00136% of the atmosphere


46 posted on 05/11/2017 9:09:56 AM PDT by Bob434
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palmer- you’re the math science guy- and I’ve been meanign to ask you the following:

What volumep0- weight of heated air molecules is produced by 0.00136% of the atmosphere?

The atmosphere weighs roughly 6 quadrillion tons- what is hte actual weight of heated molecules created by man’s CO2?

This is pretty important to know- also improtant ot know- is how much of the heat actually remains in the atmosphere OR gets radiated back to earth? As you know, the heat gets radiated out in all directions- most of it away from the extremely thin ‘belt of CO2’ where it won’t get recaptured continually- only a fraction of the captured IR remains in the ‘critical zone’

But i would like ot know, if possible, what the weight of that heated molecules in the ‘correct zones’ (assuming ‘correct’ means zones where they cause warming) would be-

IF science can’t answer this- then they have no right claiming that man’s released CO2 is causing warming- because they don’t know how much weight is actually heated with which to compare it to the total weight of atmosphere- IF they do know, then they can calculate how much warming is actually a direct result of that volume of heated molecules

Am I wording this ok? My thoughts sometimes don’t translate to writing well- but my basic premise is (I’ll attempt to simplify it) is that a certain amount of molecules need to be warmed in order to overpower the massive cooler molecules in atmosphere and back on earth, in order for there to be enough heated volume to raise the temperature-

like the pool example in my previous post- the pool water would not change UNTIL enough 5 gallon pails of 100 degree water were added to actually start raising the pool’s 95 degree temperature- it woudl certainly take a LOT more than 0.00136% of the pool’s volume to affect change-

NOTE- someone figured out that 4 5 gallon pails would be the equivalent of 0.00136% of the Olympic sized pool- Can’t remember now who it was- but it was someone here on FR responding to one of my posts awhile back- they did the calculations and figured it out to 4 five gallon pails I believe - but you can picture what I’m talking about in regards to mass/volume by this analogy- The heat produced by just 0.00136% of the atmosphere simply can not be a large enough volume to affect the temp of the atmosphere- there simply isn’t enough CO2 to do so-


53 posted on 05/11/2017 10:40:01 AM PDT by Bob434
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