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Men not marrying? How deep does "the problem" go?
YouTube ^ | March 15, 2012 | Karen Straughan

Posted on 04/23/2017 3:45:20 PM PDT by grundle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlvMAS_20K4

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: feminism; genderwars; marriage; mgtow
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To: Secret Agent Man; All

Sexual revolution created a situation where men have access to sex from women without any strings attached.

So the one commodity women had is readily available.

Young men can get sex and see getting married means pressure, stress, etc. Why bother? Or wait until later (35+) and find a young hottie then.

Westernized women have priced themselves out of the market. They’re high cost / high risk with low reward.

I stayed single and had my fun until I was ready to have children. Then I found a non-U.S. woman.

The law discriminates against men in divorce court (now cynically renamed ‘family court’ when it is anything but).

Even Hillary couldn’t bring herself to say women should register for the draft or be drafted.

Men are valued less in our society. We’re only 38% of college graduates. Vastly outnumber women in jails and in suicides. Live 5 years less than women.

There’s basically a War on Men in this country perpetrated by the left. We do 60%+ more time for the same crime than women. Just think of the guy teacher/young girl vs. woman teacher/young guy sex stories we keep seeing. Women get a slap on the rest. Men have the F.B.I. hunting them down and get federal jail time. Double standards at every level.


281 posted on 04/23/2017 9:25:44 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: metmom

“I’m no feminist and believe in traditional roles in marriage, but marriage takes work from BOTH parties”

You types always explain how its hard and takes hard work. Maybe you need to focus on it being a source of joy for a man, and not some labor he needs to endure.

And the purpose of going foreign? Simple, it’s a trip back to about 1960. With a woman who is nice, happy, and kind. What’s your hangup that you have some weirdo right to American men? Maybe we want to look at the other 96% of women on earth.

You sound EXACTLY like a union that hates non-union labor.


282 posted on 04/23/2017 9:26:32 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up.)
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To: baltimorepoet

You’re very lucky.

What state do you live in?

The major population centers (LA / NY) and college towns are filled with men hating, ball busting, whores on psych meds, disaster area feMales. They sleep around in their 20s and then look for a meal ticket in their 30s. Then lament there are ‘no men’ when they’re in their 40s.

Good for you you found one! I did as well, but had to leave the U.S. to do so.


283 posted on 04/23/2017 9:28:12 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: BJ1

“Read some dating profiles from women in their 30s. They yap about their careers. They yap about their exotic vacations to some far point on the globe. They yap about their education. What they didn’t do very often imho, is sell themselves on why they would be an asset to a guy’s life.”

This.


284 posted on 04/23/2017 9:28:29 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Well put.

The film DIVORCE INC. goes into the abuses of the legal system and harm it does to children.

Women are ASS-U-MEd to be the best parent, regardless of facts. The entire system is designed to screw over men.

For example, men are forced to pay child support for children they did not father. Women are rewarded for duping their husbands, regardless of what the DNA tests say. That’s just one obvious example.

But this was the goal of Marxist feminists — drive a wedge between men and women, destroy the family, prevent Europeans from breeding. Then they’ll be forced to bring in migrants.

In Darwinian terms, western post-Christian cultures are suicidal and deserve the ash heap of history. They’ll be replaced sadly by high breeding 3rd worlders (Catholic Hispanics here and Muslims in Europe).


285 posted on 04/23/2017 9:31:57 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws

“Vastly outnumber women in jails and in suicides. Live 5 years less than women.”


Men commit more crimes than women,always have, and women have been outliving men for many years,in countries all over the world.

Stop feeling so sorry for yourself.

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286 posted on 04/23/2017 9:32:22 PM PDT by Mears
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To: baltimorepoet

If you really want to go down the rabbit hole, consider women and the right to vote.

We got Kennedy because of women. Women view the State as ‘Daddy’ and are moved by emotional arguments. They’d have voted Hillary into office. They’re making Europe unlivable. Sweden is run by women and it’s a complete hell hole now.

Every aspect of the women’s movement has been a slow poisoning of the West.


287 posted on 04/23/2017 9:34:48 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: elpadre

>I am an octogenarian married since I was 19 years old to the same beautiful woman and mother of our four children. We started with nothing. Today we live comfortably in a nice home we own, we also own a vacation cottage, and owe nothing. I have been successful in several jobs and have some modest investments. Without my wife beside me all the way I could not be close to where we are today. A good marriage is the secret to a good life.

Yep. The problem is how hard it is to find a good marriage these days.


288 posted on 04/23/2017 9:35:03 PM PDT by RedWulf
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To: metmom

“I’m sure there are many foreign women who would LOVE the opportunity to get tied into an American man and American citizenship as a result.”

Its not that at all. It’s that believe it or not, American men are regarded by them as the best husbands on earth. If he works hard, doesn’t hit them, doesn’t cheat, and isn’t an alcoholic, they feel like they have won life’s lottery. Because those are -norms- in their countries.
Conversely, most regard western women, particularly Americans as the worst wives on earth.


289 posted on 04/23/2017 9:35:12 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

This pretty woman is serious about her goals though. She went to a forum seeking a rich husband. And wrote a rather desperate sounding inquiry as to how she could attract a man with money.

Title: What should I do to marry a rich guy?

I’m going to be honest of what I’m going to say here. I’m 25 this year. I’m very pretty, have style and good taste. I wish to marry a guy with $500k annual salary or above. You might say that I’m greedy, but an annual salary of $1M is considered only as middle class in New York.

My requirement is not high. Is there anyone in this forum who has an income of $500k annual salary? Are you all married? I wanted to ask: what should I do to marry rich persons like you?

Among those I’ve dated, the richest is $250k annual income, and it seems that this is my upper limit.

If someone is going to move into high cost residential area on the west of New York City Garden(?), $250k annual income is not enough.

I’m here humbly to ask a few questions:

1) Where do most rich bachelors hang out? (Please list down the names and addresses of bars, restaurant, gym)

2) Which age group should I target?

3) Why most wives of the riches are only average-looking? I’ve met a few girls who don’t have looks and are not interesting, but they are able to marry rich guys.

4) How do you decide who can be your wife, and who can only be your girlfriend? (my target now is to get married)

Ms. Pretty

Dear Ms. Pretty,
I have read your post with great interest. Guess there are lots of girls out there who have similar questions like yours. Please allow me to analyse your situation as a professional investor.
My annual income is more than $500k, which meets your requirement, so I hope everyone believes that I’m not wasting time here.
From the standpoint of a business person, it is a bad decision to marry you. The answer is very simple, so let me explain.

Put the details aside, what you’re trying to do is an exchange of “beauty” and “money” : Person A provides beauty, and Person B pays for it, fair and square.
However, there’s a deadly problem here, your beauty will fade, but my money will not be gone without any good reason. The fact is, my income might increase from year to year, but you can’t be prettier year after year.

Hence from the viewpoint of economics, I am an appreciation asset, and you are a depreciation asset. It’s not just normal depreciation, but exponential depreciation. If that is your only asset, your value will be much worse 10 years later.

By the terms we use in Wall Street, every trading has a position, dating with you is also a “trading position”.
If the trade value dropped we will sell it and it is not a good idea to keep it for long term – same goes with the marriage that you wanted. It might be cruel to say this, but in order to make a wiser decision any assets with great depreciation value will be sold or “leased”.

Anyone with over $500k annual income is not a fool; we would only date you, but will not marry you. I would advice that you forget looking for any clues to marry a rich guy. And by the way, you could make yourself to become a rich person with $500k annual income.This has better chance than finding a rich fool.

Hope this reply helps.

Signed,
J.P. Morgan CEO

http://madamenoire.com/403169/pretty-hurts-beautiful-woman-seeking-rich-husband-gets-shut-banker/


290 posted on 04/23/2017 9:38:23 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws

Maryland. I went on many first dates for 6 months until the end of December, when I went on two first dates the last week, and ironically, got 2nd dates with both of them. It kind of dragged on for a couple months, until I finally broke up with the Asian gf April 2. (She was a mite tempermental).

The funny thing is they had the same first name. Now I’m just with the blonde gf. I hadn’t intended to get TWO girlfriends, and I finally had to act, so I chose one.

And the beauty of it all is, I got a vasectomy, because I have enough kids already. So no getting pregnancy-trapped, either. No more marriage, no more kids, no cohabitating.

One thing that made me choose to break up with the Asian gf (besides her being more volatile) was the fact she wanted to keep a toothbrush at my house. That is basically getting a toehold toward cohabitating. NOPE! I took the Red Pill, so I now refuse to drink the Kool Aid.


291 posted on 04/23/2017 9:39:48 PM PDT by baltimorepoet
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To: DesertRhino

Exactly!

Consider it in economic terms (see my post above):

American women are overpriced and risky investments.

Foreign women (non-Westernized) are younger, hotter, less risky.

Notice the extreme hostility to this idea from American women. Obviously a monopolist wants to maintain the monopoly.


292 posted on 04/23/2017 9:40:33 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws

/// We got Kennedy because of women. Women view the State as ‘Daddy’ and are moved by emotional arguments. They’d have voted Hillary into office. They’re making Europe unlivable. Sweden is run by women and it’s a complete hell hole now. ///

What is this “Sweden” you speak of? I have an old map that says Sweden on it, but it is now called “Cuckistan”.


293 posted on 04/23/2017 9:41:26 PM PDT by baltimorepoet
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To: metmom
guilt shaming

That's a liberal term, invented to deflect honest criticism, and shut down free speech.

Fat women are unattractive to most men. Period, end of Reality lesson.

I'm fully aware that the knife cuts both ways, so don't start with that. We get it.

294 posted on 04/23/2017 9:42:42 PM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: baltimorepoet

There was a story a year or two ago. A woman used the sperm from a used condom from her male sex partner. Used it against his knowledge or consent to get pregnant. Yep. He owes 18 years of child support.


295 posted on 04/23/2017 9:42:49 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: BJ1

>The red pill guys will point to studies and say it messes up a woman’s ability to pair bond. Yet it doesn’t for men. Maybe because men compartmentalize, for better or for worse.

It does mess up men as well but it’s a 4-5 to 1 ratio compared to women. A guy has to sleep with 4-5 different women to do the same damage to pair bonding that a women sleeping with 1 other guy would cause.

I know a guy who was a big tall body builder who slept with a different girl every few weeks. He probably racked up 60 women before he got married. Predictably he hasn’t pair bonded well with his wife or child very well and really hates his marriage. That’s the other bad thing about sleeping around, it harms your ability to pair bond with your children.


296 posted on 04/23/2017 9:43:32 PM PDT by RedWulf
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To: cherry

An older woman referred to young girls as “dudes with tits.”

I remember women dressing well and making an effort to look nice in public. Go drive to a college campus. The girls wear sloppy baggy gym shorts, pony tail, total slobs.


297 posted on 04/23/2017 9:45:39 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: Newbomb Turk
I also was married 29 yrs.....and have chosen not to remarry.
I haven't discovered as yet why I would reconsider.

I worked out hard all my life...have a great figure, manage my finances, have a sweet apartment so i don't have to contend with maintenance etc. a home brings with it.

The available men in my age category are mostly fat and look like left overs from the dinosaur age......basic manners seem to be a thing of the past.

So why would I see an upside to marrying?

298 posted on 04/23/2017 9:46:17 PM PDT by caww
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To: TigerClaws

/// There was a story a year or two ago. A woman used the sperm from a used condom from her male sex partner. Used it against his knowledge or consent to get pregnant. Yep. He owes 18 years of child support. ///

Yeah, I read about that story before I got my vasectomy. It was one factor (sperm-jacking) of many that helped me decide. It was two professors, in England. She even admitted in court to doing that.

Wasn’t so bad. Right after the surgery, I played Monty Python’s “Every Sperm is Sacred” song on my phone.


299 posted on 04/23/2017 9:49:52 PM PDT by baltimorepoet
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To: baltimorepoet

Another example:

Two lesbians wanted to have a baby. They asked a guy buddy to volunteer his sperm to help them. He did.

He was later sued for child support and, you guessed it, lost. So much for doing sperm favors!


300 posted on 04/23/2017 9:52:41 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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