Posted on 03/30/2017 11:34:03 AM PDT by Sean_Anthony
Defeat from the jaws of victory
You know what their response is going to be, of course. They’re going to complain that the White House and the leadership are putting forth terrible bills that don’t really repeal ObamaCare but institutionalize government-run health care for generations. I’ve already told you why I don’t agree with them, and Rob’s already told you why he does.
So let’s skip all that and see what Trump himself has to say about the matter:
Maybe the freedom caucus is not what they say they are.
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So, you’re blaming the FC for holding Trump to his campaign promise?
Maybe Trump has some bad advisors (Ivanka & Jerod), or his ego is getting the best of him. n
Trump is abandoning his most important campaign promise, and you have the nerve to question the FC?
There’s not enough votes for a straight stand alone repeal vote. That’s why they didn’t have the failed 2015 repeal bill on Trump’s desk day 1. It’s a farce.
Meanwhile the ACA, fully funded, rolls destructively on.
Great job!
They’ve shown again just how incompetent they are in getting the work done....as I see it Trumps doing more work at his job then they are even thinking about!
Turn over the Obamacare table completely ...let it crash...and start working at costs and borders so the market opens for all.
They’ve shown again just how incompetent they are in getting the work done....as I see it Trumps doing more work at his job then they are even thinking about!
Turn over the Obamacare table completely ...let it crash...and start working at costs and borders so the market opens for all.
I have to laugh at all of those condemning the 30 members of the FC as being responsible for Ryancare not passing, but have no such criticism for the 100+ moderates who were also against it!
Sorry, but Trump is ignoring the promise he made in the campaign, and is pi$$ed the FC is holding him to HIS promise! Trump is fracturing his own base by slapping us in the face, while embracing the establishment!
Note to President Trump: Please stop blaming the FC for you not living up to YOUR campaign promise!
I looks like Trump wanted to fulfill promise to kill Obamacare with a bill that would pass but with the 2nd and 3rd phase never to survive. This would end health care and provide more money for a tax cut.
The very idea that they could pass toothless legislation to repeal Obamacare more than 60 times when they couldn't do anything about it and yet NOT have something ready to go after SEVEN YEARS is unacceptable!
My fear is that ends in single payer in 2019. If the dems pick-up seats on that issue in 2018, single payer is a done deal.
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I’m beginning to believe this is what Trump wants.
Thats not what I said. Read it it again.
Are you so tone-deaf over one issue that you think that you have been getting the past 8 years the past 2 months?
Who Sanford and Amash voted for is their own business. It’s still a secret ballot. I have friends that voted for Johnson, and I don’t hold that against them. Might tease them a bit, but in reality, they voted their conscience.
I think he’s wrong here, throwing barbs against the dissenters (or reputed dissenters, since no actual vote was taken) of this horrible bill. The problem is the bill, not the people that spoke against it.
Let’s see if Ryan can’t deal a little closer to the conservative side instead of caving to the left and his biggest crony donors. This bill was a crap sandwich, that merely nibbled at small parts while leaving the bulk of the problem in place.
I don’t want a half-a%%ed effort here - I want something that goes to remove, to the greatest extent possible, the federal government from my health care.
I want the same with tax cutting, the wall, all the other things that were promised over and over. We need to see socialism rooted out of this country at every opportunity, but the RINO caucus seem to embrace it.
Absolutely not!. I am suggesting that by offering to work with them you look for some things that both sides might want. There are things like transportation that we can agree on. That diffuses the climate of animosity. Then approach some of the more divisive issues.
If ramming conservative ideas through like the Dems did OCare would work it would at least be an option. I don’t believe it is workable. I hate to say this on an open forum & clue in the Dems but we are a lot smarter then they are, especially with Trump’s cabinet. There will be bills that can be passed with support that will move us in the right direction and maybe even the discussion & free exchange of ideas will improve them. Then the fine tuning and actions of Trump & his cabinet will improve them further.
Success emboldens and makes further success possible. I hated the OCarelight, I distrust Ryan and most of Congress. Still I would have gagged down this bill because Price & Trump are committed to the private healthcare overhaul and this bill was really for the Government supported Healthcare aspect only. The bill separated private healthcare from OCare and allowed the shift of responsibilities from the Government to the states & private sector. It was a first step that would have allowed further modifications toward a free market system and a saftey net administered by the States without Government mandates.
Knowing he is antisemitic why would you even post a link to him ?
It did make a huge difference. We did not get amnesty and lived to fight another day.
There would have been no President Trump if amnesty had been passed.
Are you sure the Freedom Caucus wish him to succeed? The name is great. I have been reading troubling things about how they operated during the negotiations for the HCA. We do not know what went on during the negotiations but it was reported by Sean Spicer that there were agreements that were not lived up to and that the demands of the caucus moved the bill away from repealing Obamacare.
The caucus wanted full repeal which would be great IMHO but wasn’t doable. It would have been a satisfying stand but like a fart with no lasting effects.
About a dozen moderates opposed the bill because they were concerned that the tax credits aren’t generous enough and that the Medicaid changes would kick too many people off the program for low-income Americans. So any more motion toward the Caucuses position shed equal or greater numbers of moderates.
It would have been better to settle for getting the first hurdle over and being free to put effort into making healthcare competitive and affordable. Then in the process of devolving responsibility to the States we could have trimmed a mass of bureaucracy.
The House Freedom Caucus does not disclose the names of its members. In the current (115th) Congress, the group has about three dozen members. If I read the tea leaves there are many different viewpoints & some are beholding to donors whose views are big business oriented.
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