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We'll all be riding unicorns to the doctor's office too.
1 posted on 03/17/2017 6:48:34 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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Something that doesn’t come up much is that Vermont tried to get single payer and they found out the state couldn’t afford it. So if a relatively rich state can’t afford it, what makes them think the United States can afford it with 20 trillion in debt?????? Idiots.


2 posted on 03/17/2017 6:53:47 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016)
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Yeah let`s put this guy in the party as some FReepers have wanted


3 posted on 03/17/2017 6:55:49 PM PDT by StoneWall Brigade
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The United States pays per capita more than two and a half times more than industrialized countries with single payer systems.

That's because we have a high standard of living and the best health care system in the world

4 posted on 03/17/2017 6:56:21 PM PDT by plain talk
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Obamacare was Medicare 2 in disguise.....that’s who signed up...All the Medicaid people.


5 posted on 03/17/2017 6:56:49 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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For starters, what’s wrong with single payer Manchin? Untimely long wait times for service, and mandated rationing for medical care, which would result in more deaths for the sick.


7 posted on 03/17/2017 6:58:16 PM PDT by Red Steel
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““And it was effective. Everyone was in the system.”

Yes, they are. BUT my little rainbow-chasing muchnkin called Mnuchin doesn’t really understand NOR live in canada, like we did.

First of, everyone in canada pays into it. It all depends on the province. They set your monthly. Mine was around $75 per month in BC. Now if you cant pay into it , you write the ministry you have no money. They take care of you for FREE. So it’s the same scam here. PLUS, the simplest tests like a CT scan you are automatically put on the WAITING LIST. A CT scan in L.A. costs $50. There, you WAIT until you suffer from pain. And every damn year, the UNION doctors and nurses go on strike, asking for more money until the province bleeds dry. Gosh, Mnuchin is a moron.


9 posted on 03/17/2017 7:00:34 PM PDT by max americana (For the 9th time FIRED LIBERALS from our company at this election, and every election since 2008)
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Hell NO, Joe!!!

If you don't want to be re-elected next year you could just retire and save us all the grief.

10 posted on 03/17/2017 7:02:26 PM PDT by NorthMountain (The Democrats ... have lost their grip on reality -DJT)
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Yes Canada and other countries have a higher life-expectancy than we do, but as has been pointed out here and elsewhere, when you factor out black on black violence and deaths. Our life expectancy is about the same.


11 posted on 03/17/2017 7:02:27 PM PDT by Maine Mariner
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This goofball knows that he will not be standing or sitting in any waiting room for service and for that matter has no doubt he will be the recipient of top-of-the-line care. You just can’t take the dumb out of dumbocrats.


12 posted on 03/17/2017 7:02:51 PM PDT by Maudeen (No one on this earth is too far gone for Jesus.)
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I did some research on the Canadian system a couple of years ago.Their government's policy is that if you get a hip replacement within 6 months of it being determined you need one you've been well served.Hip replacements are of interest to me because I've had one.Mine took 11 business days from first call to the surgeon to admission to the recovery room of a world famous hospital.

After discovering Canada's policy on hip replacements I discovered a piece in Winnipeg's newspaper that only 57% of patients in Manitoba got a new hip within 6 months of diagnosis.

13 posted on 03/17/2017 7:03:20 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Deplorables' Lives Matter)
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Manchin does not know if he wants to $hit or get off the pot!Maybe the voters of West Virginia will wise up!


14 posted on 03/17/2017 7:03:20 PM PDT by longhorn too
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I hope the Mountaineers can throw Munchin out next year. He’s pathetic.


15 posted on 03/17/2017 7:03:45 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn (Chuck Schumer--giving pond scum everywhere a bad name.)
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Didn’t the president already promise single payer for the United States?


16 posted on 03/17/2017 7:03:52 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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So, isn’t “almost a quarter of the twenty questionnaires” wanting single payor less than 5 people? Wow, they worked hard to “fake” this one.


21 posted on 03/17/2017 7:10:38 PM PDT by I_be_tc
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Trump if you ever read Free Republic, let me say this:

There are two ways for you to, in my humble opinion, throw away the huge support you got in the election.

The first, is if you do not aggressively fight to bring back jobs to America. Especially from China, and from Mexico.

The second, is you MUST, and I repeat, must insist on some form of healthcare for America where EVERYONE IS COVERED.

I don’t care where. I don’t care by whom. I don’t care what it is composed of.

But that is VERY important.

Those two issues, are the defining issues of your candidacy. Do them right.

Now let me say. I have supported Trump forever. Since before he even announced as a candidate. I am strongly supportive of his presidency.

But don’t blow either of these two issues Trump.

They will define your presidency.


22 posted on 03/17/2017 7:16:32 PM PDT by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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Nope.


23 posted on 03/17/2017 7:19:51 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings f😜low.)
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Garbage. Worse than Medicaid. The good doctors will not participate and you’ll need private insurance or pay out of pocket to get good, timely care. Hospitals will have a first class wing for paying customers and a third world wing for the government covered patients.


24 posted on 03/17/2017 7:23:44 PM PDT by grumpygresh (When will Soros be brought to justice? Crush the vermin, crush the Left.)
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When in germany on my final tour, a out 1999, I lived in a german community. My neighbor’s father, about 75 yrs old, broke his shoulder. He was deemed young enough for immediate survery and care.

I’m telling you the truth...he died. A 75 year old died from a broken shoulder.

Do NOT let governments decide your health care and who is first in line. It truly is a death panel.


26 posted on 03/17/2017 7:29:37 PM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory.)
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At a town hall meeting in Martinsburg, West Virginia today, more than 200 people jammed the Robert Byrd Science Center. Almost a quarter of the twenty or so questioners called on Manchin to get behind single payer.

Were these Soros rent-a-mob people?

33 posted on 03/17/2017 8:29:46 PM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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It's only a matter of time. First Obama half wrecks out healthcare system, then the GOP steps in and finishes the job while trying to "fix" it. Then they declare it unfixable and boom! Single payer.

The mask is off. Everyone in the GOP not named Trump is a phony, a liberal that will do everything they can to undermine and overturn his agenda at every turn. The things they said they were for (tax cuts, overturning Obamacare, sweeping cuts of wasteful spending) a

39 posted on 03/17/2017 10:34:56 PM PDT by pepsi_junkie
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