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Why doesn't President Trump ignore the ruling?
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Posted on 03/15/2017 8:10:26 PM PDT by Signalman

The U.S. Constitution clearly allows the president to block any individuals from entering the country that he deems to be a threat to national security.

Where does it state, in the Constitution, that a federal judge can override the president in this matter?

Trump should carry on and implement the E.O. What is anyone going to do about it? Impeachment? It takes 2/3 of the Senate to convict and the Dems don't have the vote.


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To: sergeantdave
"Then you shouldn’t have any trouble citing the part of the US Constitution that gives judges plenary power to write and nullify laws and strike down congressional legislation. I’ll wait."

Asked and answered. It doesn't have to be written out in explicit words for you to read. It follows from the basic function of the court. Courts have to resolve cases where two different laws are in conflict with each other. If a statute is in conflict with the Constitution, the Constitution wins, and the court will decide that the statute is unenforcible. This is inherent to the process, it can't be otherwise.

61 posted on 03/17/2017 3:55:50 PM PDT by mlo
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To: mlo; sergeantdave
Read up on jurisdiction stripping and get back to us with your revised thoughts on your previous posts, mlo.

Can't believe you're a 98er...

62 posted on 03/17/2017 4:01:40 PM PDT by kiryandil
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To: sergeantdave
Is it still buzzing around with its #FakeConstitutionalOpinions? LOLOL!

You have a lot of patience, sergeantdave. 😀

63 posted on 03/17/2017 4:03:39 PM PDT by kiryandil
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To: mlo

According to you, the judiciary can usurp the constitutional authority of the president because the judiciary is a co-equal branch of government.

If that’s the case, then a judge can stop the president from sending troops into Iraq and instead send the troops to Syria, because judges are a co-equal branch of government.

If that’s true, than a congressman from Idaho can issue an opinion that Roe v Wade is illegal ,and overrule the USSC because that congressman is a co-equal branch of government.

Please continue. I’m amused.


64 posted on 03/17/2017 4:53:01 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Cats are like potato chips - you can't have just one.)
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To: kiryandil

Continue following this thread. It’s getting both interesting and amusing.


65 posted on 03/17/2017 5:04:17 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Cats are like potato chips - you can't have just one.)
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To: kiryandil
"Read up on jurisdiction stripping and get back to us with your revised thoughts on your previous posts, mlo."

That has no bearing on anything I've said. We are talking about cases the courts hear, not cases that they don't hear.

"Can't believe you're a 98er..."

97er. I lurked for a year.

I don't make my opinions of what is conform to what I wish would be. What is, is, regardless. Unfortunately that's not so common.

I would be saying exactly the same thing if I were on a forum with people complaing about the many times the courts overturned Obama.

Obama Has Lost the Supreme Court More Than Any Modern President

Nowhere have I said I thought this current decision was correct. In fact I think it is terrible, and Trump is clearly within his authority, there are no valid constitutional issues at stake, and that it will be reversed. I am only responding to the notions that the President has the right to ignore the courts and do what he wants anyway. He doesn't, and it's a horrible idea.

66 posted on 03/17/2017 6:23:41 PM PDT by mlo
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To: mlo

I see this as a national security issue. I hope the courts don’t have any authority over that.


67 posted on 03/17/2017 6:24:58 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: sergeantdave
"According to you, the judiciary can usurp the constitutional authority of the president because the judiciary is a co-equal branch of government."

No, that is not according to me. I've said no such thing. Go back and read for comprehension.

68 posted on 03/17/2017 6:25:32 PM PDT by mlo
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To: mlo

“According to you, the judiciary can usurp the constitutional authority of the president because the judiciary is a co-equal branch of government.”

No, that is not according to me. I’ve said no such thing. Go back and read for comprehension.

Really? Here’s you:

“The Constitution does make the Supreme Court the final arbiter of what the law means, and the Constitution is the law. Even though it might not spell that out, it doesn’t really work any other way.”

Your own statement on FR shows that you’re a liar.

You believe that a bunch of unelected black-robed fascists are the final arbiter of the law. Your own words betray what you are - a judicial fascist.


69 posted on 03/17/2017 6:46:04 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Cats are like potato chips - you can't have just one.)
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To: sergeantdave
You're correct. It continues to be both interesting and amusing.

It just won't quit, having lost the argument. Last-worder?

70 posted on 03/17/2017 7:41:01 PM PDT by kiryandil
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To: mlo

You have mis-attributed the quote in your post to me. I didn’t say it; SoCal Pubbie was the source (see post #39).


71 posted on 03/17/2017 10:36:19 PM PDT by Trod Upon (Government employees and welfare recipients are both net tax consumers. Often for life.)
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To: Signalman

I was thinking earlier on this. Trump: How are you going to I force this. I’m the one with the army.


72 posted on 03/18/2017 8:42:21 PM PDT by Conservative4Ever (Not tired of winning yet.)
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