Posted on 01/27/2017 9:24:12 AM PST by Sean_Anthony
The master dealmaker outfoxes his Mexican counterpart
Blasting President Donald Trump for his Twitter-based demands that Mexico free up the pesos needed to build a U.S.-Mexico border wall, President Enrique Peña Nieto abruptly pulled out of a planned summit with Trump.
Answering Trump in kind, the Mexican head of state tweeted midday Thursday in Spanish, “We have informed the White House that I will not attend the working meeting planned for next Tuesday with @POTUS[.]”
We should have imposed withholding on these money transfers a long time ago....If you file taxes and don't get welfare you would get it back but if not / Build the wall...Build the wall....
Interestig! lets make sure that gets around.
Such harsh language. You seem angry.
And I noted you completely evaded the questions.☺
because I answered them RIGHT IN MY FIRST POST
And then instead of reading what I wrote, you said I SUGGESTED something entirely the opposite
What I was ASKING FOR with my RHETORICAL question was how we answer that particular question from critics.
Then I went on to suggest some possible answers, inviting more.
So what do you do? You jump in with “OH YOU DONT THINK MEXICO SHOULD PAY FOR IT???”
No, I DO think mexico should pay for it. You should practice comprehension.
I thought I heard that Trump had a one hour phone conversation with the Mexican President today.
Since Mexico has used illegal immigration to wage war against the US, has offloaded the support of its poor onto the US welfare state and has sanctioned cross border drug smuggling (by its politicians’ drug lord patrons) we can simply declare that the cost of the wall will be considered as damages owed to the US by Mexico and file judgments against all funds flowing from immigrants to Mexican destinations. That is how we can get off telling Mexico that they will pay for the Wall.
I think what he said was more like, if Mexico is not willing to discuss helping to pay for a wall that will protect both countries from smuggling and human trafficking, especially from Central America, then there is really no reason to meet at this time. It was very measured, his statement, as I remember.
I find it baffling. I think he will make concessions to them when they come to the table (they will), but as long as they do not play they get no say in what we do. I like it.
Where does Mexico get off by leaving a landscape of dead, and injured Americans?
Where does Mexico get off having no respect for our laws and rules?
Where does Mexico get off sending millions of it's poor people to the U.S., which results in closed hospitals, choked off hospital ERs, jammed schools, and overburdened social services?
Where does Mexico get off sending billions of U.S. dollars back to Mexico every month?
Cuz we’re sending millions of tax free dollars to Mexico....courtesy of the illegals.
It’s been suggested Trump is in cahoots with the mexican president and is engaging in WWE theatrics to help his ratings at home, so Nieto owes him a favor.
Mexican Senator Threatens: We’ll Stop Fighting Terrorism If Trump Builds The Wall.
OK, if Mexico wont fight terrorism....then we want our money back.
THE MERIDIA INITIATIVE——The U.S. Congress has now authorized $1.6 USD billion for the three-year initiative (2007–2010). The U.S. Congress approved $465 million in the first year, which includes $400 million for Mexico and $65 million for Central America, the Dominican Republic, and Haiti. For the second year, Congress approved $300 million for Mexico and $110 million for Central America, the Dominican Republic and Haiti. A FY09 supplemental appropriation is providing an additional $420 million for Mexico; and $450 million for Mexico and $100 million for Central America has been requested for FY10.[21]
Only about $204 million of that, however, will be earmarked for the Mexican military for the purchase of eight used transport helicopters and two small surveillance aircraft. No weapons are included in the plan.[22][23][24] The bill requires that $73.5 million of the $400 million for Mexico must be used for judicial reform, institution-building, human rights and rule-of-law issues. The bill specifies that 15% of the funds will be dependent on Mexico making headway in four areas relating to human-rights issues, and on which the U.S. Secretary of State will have to report periodically to Congress.[25][26]
An additional $65 million was granted for the Central American countries (Belize, Costa Rica, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua and Panama); the House also included Haiti and the Dominican Republic in this bill for Central America, which is a comprehensive public security package that seeks to tackle citizen insecurity in Central America by more effectively addressing criminal gangs, improving information sharing between countries, modernizing and professionalizing the police forces, expanding maritime interdiction capabilities, and reforming the judicial sector in order to restore and strengthen citizens’ confidence in those institutions.[27]
Much of the US funding will go toward the purchase of aircraft, surveillance software, and other goods and services produced by U.S. private defense contractors.
According to U.S. State Department officials, 59% of the proposed assistance will go to civil agencies responsible for law enforcement, and 41% to operational costs for the Mexican Army and Mexican Navy. While the initial cost for equipment and hardware that the military required is high, it is expected that future budget requests will focus increasingly on training and assistance to civil agencies.
With the Mérida Initiative set to expire on September 30, 2010, the U.S. State Department has proposed a major renewal and expansion of the program. If approved, starting in 2011, $310 million would be granted to Mexico, another $100 million for the Central American Regional Security Initiative (CARSI), and $79 million for the Caribbean Basin Security Initiative (CBSI).[29]
EQUIPMENT SUPPLIED INCLUDES: Bell 412 helicopter CASA CN-235 transport aircraft. Colt AR-15 A3 Tactical Carbine AK-47 M4 Carbine with grenade launcher.
The Mérida Initiative will provide funding for:[30][31] Non-intrusive inspection equipment such as ion scanners, gamma ray scanners, X-ray vans and canine units for Mexico and Central America.
Technologies to improve and secure telecommunications systems that collect criminal information in Mexico. Technical advice and training to strengthen the institutions of justice, case management software to track investigations through the system, new offices of citizen complaints and professional responsibility, and witness protection programs to Mexico.
Thirteen Bell 412 EP helicopters (5 with INCLE funds for the Federal Police and 8 with FMF funds for the military). Eleven UH-60 Black Hawk transport helicopters (three with INCLE funds for the Federal Police and 5 with FMF funds for the Mexican Air Force, and three for the Mexican Navy.[32]) Four CASA CN-235 transport aircraft.
One Reconnaissance Dornier 328JET Equipment, training and community action programs in Central American countries to implement anti-gang measures and expand the reach of these measures. (hat tip-—Wikipedia)
Its rather irritating to be invaded by mexican citizens that are being protected by mexican consulates and instructed to feed off America like a wasp laying eggs inside a caterpillar.
I don’t think it was a tossed out comment at all. Mexico needs to pay for the wall. Mexico has not been passive in the border issues, not by a long shot. Mexico encouraged and openly aided their poor to illegally cross into this country for decades. They issued them maps, booklets of how to, pointed out when our enforcement was lax, told them about our social programs. They also encouraged citizens of other countries; especially but not limited to Guatemala to illegally come to the U.S. to solve their own illegal immigration issues. As if that was not enough the Mexican Army helped smugglers of drugs and human traffic get through. At times the Mexican Army even came into the United States to divert our Border Patrol and other agencies.
Our citizens have paid enormous sums of money to house, feed, educate, provide medical, and court and corrections cost for illegals that Mexico sent here. Mexico does need to pay for the wall, that should deter them from contributing to our border problems in the future.
in conversation with some Libs recently some suggested that the 20% tax Trump talked about would be paid by our consumers not mexico... this shut me up because in the past, raising taxes was always a thorn in my side because we do end up paying for it... someone explain to this dummy how Mexico would pay with a 20% tax trump is suggesting...?? please...
If you put a 20% tax on a product from Mexico, then the price of that product has increased by 20%.
If the price of the product goes up by 20%, then fewer Americans will buy that product.
The result is that the Mexican company sells fewer units of their product at the same Gross Margin rate they had before the tax.
They will be hurt financially.
And American companies then have a chance to produce and sell the same product at a price UNDER the Mexican produced product.
So, for the Mexicans, fewer sales and a decreasing market share.
Ouch.
Now the upside which is huge. A 20% tariff will wipe out any cost advantage of offshoring to Mexico. Thousands of jobs will come back to the USA and the tax base will increase and the job multiplier effect means huge drops in unemployment. The tax payer should see some relief. At a minimum less deficit spending. You may not care about those things but many do.
I would gladly pay 20% more to repatriate industry to the USA. After all factories have been repatriated domestic competition will reduce prices once again.
* Answering Trump in kind, the Mexican head of state tweeted midday Thursday in Spanish, “We have informed the White House that I will not attend the working meeting planned for next Tuesday with @POTUS[.]” *
Trump said what he said fully knowing that President Enrique Peña Nieto would cancel - also knowing that Nieto will have no choice but to grovel when the time finally comes - ¡checkmate, amigo! Trump wins again... HA!
ok well tariff is a whole different word. Trump said tax and everyone’s got a hard on about it. tariffs would be the best but I recall the unveiling of the Reliant K Car and the like, last time we had tariffs on Autos.
so you’re saying it will most likely be tariffs vs. Taxes?
Looks like el presidente of mexico is NO MUY INTELLIGENTE (not too intelligent) if he thinks he can call Trump's bluff. He will rue the day he passed up a chance to sit down and talk with Trump about how THEY will pay for the wall.
No it doesn’t. It means each side is in a position to destroy the other. There is no implication of equality in strength.
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