Posted on 11/23/2016 6:01:04 PM PST by Loud Mime
I am studying our Civil War; anybody have any recommendations for reading?
Nothing in the Declaration of Independence says or implies that if you provoke, start and formally declare war on the United States, you must necessarily expect to win.
Why would such a simple concept be so difficult for DiogenesLamp to grasp?
President Andrew Johnson eventually pardoned all Confederates of such charges.
After the war state governments in all regions did their best to look after wounded veterans, voting money for hospitals and prosthetics.
To my knowledge, no wounded veterans were ever mocked.
1913 Gettysburg battle reunion:
Sure, you can start reading here.
“Sure, you can start reading here.”
I’m not sure what I was expecting when I saw your recommendation - perhaps a compelling reason why Lincoln decided it was necessary to kill 600,000 Americans. I didn’t find it.
Yes, you are right. My bad. Interesting book though, completely different point of view from what I was taught.
That's your strawman, not BroJoeK's
I might just want to recommend some excellent pieces of writing by the foremost expert on the subject. His name was Abraham Lincoln and some of his writings include his “House Divided” speech, his First Innaugural Address, The Gettysburg Address and his Second Innaugural Address.
Are you the delegation BJK sent to inform me of the storyline?
If you're looking for insanity, you'll find plenty in DiogenesLamp posts, all of which were addressed and debunked on that thread, among others.
Sanity begins when you first grasp that the decision for war was made by Jefferson Davis at Fort Sumter, exactly equivalent to the Japanese decision for war at Pearl Harbor.
The Confederacy then multiplied their commitment to war by issuing a formal declaration of war on May 6, 1861.
Finally they refused to stop fighting on any conditions more favorable than "Unconditional Surrender".
In Lincoln's First Inaugural on March 4, 1861, he promised Secessionists they could not have war unless they themselves started it.
So they immediately set about preparing to start war at Fort Sumter.
That's why responsibility for the Civil War dead & wounded belongs to Confederate leaders who started fighting and refused to stop short of unconditional surrender.
You are the master of the irrelevant. All that cotton was shipped on New York controlled ships and under New York controlled contracts.
Not going to read your “Marxist” nonsense.
Lincoln started the war. He did so deliberately and with malice aforethought.
Not "debunked", more like drowned in the stream of irrelevant crap you deliberately put forth in order to abfuscate the salient point; That Money, specifically the loss of huge sums of it to the power structure of the New York/Washington Axis, was the reason why the Union invaded the South to stop their independence from that power structure.
Same trouble we face today. New York/Washington controls the nation, and the rest of us pay tribute.
Hands down the quintessential read for the history of the Army of Northern Virginia.
You assertion on this, as with everything else, is not supported by data, only by your own pro-Confederate mythology.
The real truth is that cotton producers chose whichever shippers they wished, based on various factors, including price and availability.
Nothing prevented them from using Southern owned & operated ships, and shipping directly to their European customers.
You are wrong about Fort Sumter being a sneak attack by Confederates. Start with that.
Do you not even read your own links?
Thanks, I’ve added it to my list. I know that a lot of FReepers are down on amazon - and rightfully so - but I have found them useful for locating serviceable copies of these books. I have added over a half-dozen titles to my library, often for just 2-3 dollars.
No more than FDR attacked the Japanese at Pearl Harbor.
No more than any US President who resupplies and reinforces Guantanamo starts war with Cuba.
Remember, your pro-Confederate fantasies and myths can only go so far before they run into rock-hard reality.
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