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Unless we reform our ruling institutions, the next eight years of Donald Trump will be just a bump in the road to grinding statism.
1 posted on 11/21/2016 2:15:53 AM PST by Jacquerie
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Article V ping!


2 posted on 11/21/2016 2:23:40 AM PST by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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Democrats steal votes. Steal Elections. You give them the ability to change the constitution en masse and you will get a Marxist America, not only in practice (as they do now at every turn) but also by the law of the land. They want a living constitution. They’ll rig it.
What the constitution needs, is to be obeyed. With justices who don’t do end runs around it. We need 9 Scalias, who follow the constitution, not 9 Ginsbergs who would ignore the whole document to get Marxist America

Leave the constitution alone...... remove those usurpers who would ignore and destroy it.


3 posted on 11/21/2016 2:35:41 AM PST by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Jacquerie

> “Unless we reform our ruling institutions, the next eight years of Donald Trump will be just a bump in the road to grinding statism.”

Very true.

But consider that if Hillary Clinton had been elected, the Republic and its Constitution would have been finished. Article V would have been deemed a domestic terrorist banner and anyone engaged in a COS movement an enemy of the state.

Donald Trump has called for a new constitutional amendment for term limits. It is with high probability that such an amendment will never be accomplished by the US Congress because it goes against their own self-interest. It can only be done via an Article V states process.

The new President should call for supporting an Article V states process. Watch as Congress steps in to say it won’t be necessary, they’ll get on it. Then watch them slow walk such an amendment to a death and burial as the 2018 midterms loom.

The public still requires education on this part of the Constitution. Education requires marketing and promotion expense. Therein lies the immediate problem.

Levin is for all practical purposes, out.


5 posted on 11/21/2016 2:58:22 AM PST by Hostage (Article V)
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To: Jacquerie

There are two issues which are related, but not the same.

First: If there are 38 states which would ratify Amendments (or a new Constitution) which would alter our fundamental freedoms, we’re at war already.

Second, it’s correct that steps have to be taken to restore the relationship among the three branches to what was intended when they were created, which in our time means breaking the power of the Supreme Court. I don’t know that the amendment process (Article V or otherwise) is the best way to do this.


10 posted on 11/21/2016 3:50:49 AM PST by Jim Noble (The pump don't work 'cause the vandals took the handles)
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Very interesting, important discussion. (Never heard of Publics Huldah) Have any of the article V States put forth a list of grievances? Thanks for your work Jacquerie, and thanks to all posters.

That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

DEPOPULATE criminals/conmen/deceivers/democrats/liars/looters/oafs/oligarchs/marxists/morons/progressivs/punks/socialists/scumbags/tyrants/totalitarians from the body politic.

Oh, wait...

HOORAY Mr. Donald J. Trump. Thank you, sir. Thank you, Americans.


17 posted on 11/21/2016 4:26:18 AM PST by PGalt (CONGRATULATIONS Donald J. Trump)
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To: Jacquerie

Fearing an Article V convention of states is inappropriate. It amounts to not trusting, as they were called by the founding fathers, the “people”. Jefferson would be horrified!

We have lost the single most important working principle behind the document and its philosophy of governance, the actual representation of the people. Returning to the constitution as written must mean one representative for every 30,000 persons!

Does anyone know what it is now?


24 posted on 11/21/2016 6:01:46 AM PST by BDParrish (One representative for every 30,000 persons!)
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We k now the politicians aren’t going to do what’s necessary, so what do COS opponents propose to correct the system?


34 posted on 11/21/2016 10:06:22 AM PST by TBP (0bama lies, Granny dies.)
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