Posted on 11/21/2016 2:15:53 AM PST by Jacquerie
In an October 29th speech to a small gathering, Publius Huldah discussed her perceptions of the dangers posed by an Article V Convention of the States to propose Constitutional amendments. After viewing the entire talk, I understand why the leading figures of the Convention of States movement (COS) haven’t responded in depth to her various accusations. Her conclusions are often at the fringes of reason and she carries a deep and personal animosity to the leaders of the COS. Since the COS leadership choose not to address most of her accusations, please allow me, your humble blogger, to take up the mission.
On the bright side, I am better acquainted with the usual talking points of COS opponents which I’ve read in endless repetition at conservative websites. If her arguments are swallowed whole, without knowledge of certain points in our history and tradition, the hostility of her adherents is perfectly logical. Publius Huldah’s impact is significant for those who rely on her views and nothing else. Do not underestimate her influence. Ms. Huldah admonishes her followers to:
• View COS supporters as conspiratorial enemies.
• Just obey the Constitution as written.
• Restore morality.
• Support state nullification of federal laws, regulations, and scotus decisions.
Mix her talking points, let them ferment, and Ms. Huldah presents a powerful and heady brew against an Article V convention of the states. The foundation of her argument is a conspiracy in which nefarious groups, foreign and domestic, work toward our demise. The means to their ends is the Article V state amendments convention. Since COS supports an Article V convention, its leaders must be part of the scheme, and the many thousands of COS volunteers are simply ignorant dupes.
(Excerpt) Read more at articlevblog.com ...
And the horse you rode in on.
For influence among Article V opponents, ‘Publius Huldah’ is up there with the John Birch Society and Eagle Forum.
Illustrations associated with an advent of a new historial era ‘THE AMERICAN REFORMATION’:
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AMENDMENT XXVIII (’State Sufferage’)
To restore effective suffrage of State Legislatures to Congress, the following amendment is proposed:
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Section 1.
A Senator in Congress shall be subject to recall by their respective state legislature or by voter referendum in their respective state.
Section 2.
Term limits for Senators in Congress shall be set by vote in their respective state legislatures but in no case shall be set less than twelve years nor more than eighteen years.
Section 3:
The seventeenth article of amendment to the Constitution of the United States is hereby repealed.
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AMENDMENT XXIX (‘Thirty-State Quash Authority’)
To redress the balance of powers between the federal government and the States, the following amendment is proposed:
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Section 1.
Upon a majority vote in three-fifths of state legislatures, specific federal statutes, federal court decisions and executive directives of any form shall be repealed and made void in any state, territory, or possession of the United States.
Section 2.
State legislatures in agreement with results derived from Section 1 of this amendment shall sign a state quash authority directive delineating the specific federal statutes, federal court decisions or federal executive directives affected, said directive addressed and delivered to the Congress of the United States becoming immediately effective as of the date of delivery.
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3423235/posts?page=949#949
IMPORTANT NOTE: These illustrations are written in a manner that THE STATES ARE GIVEN RESPONSIBILITY AND AUTHORITY. Amendments should be written so that it is clear that the federal government has no mandate regarding the interpretation or selective enforcement or non-enforcement of these types of amendments.
For example, the flawed 10th Amendment leaves all powers not enumerated in the US Constitution to the States or to the People. However, there is no mechanism left to the states to check the federal government with the 10th Amendment save for the appointment of US Senators by state legislatures which was abolished under the 17th Amendment. As it is, the 10th Amendment jurisdiction is left to the federal judiciary without any voice or role for the States. The result of these compounded errors has yielded a highly centralized federal government whereby power is attained by an enormous federal government and funded by the Federal Reserve.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3461988/posts?page=18#18
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An illustration addressing the 16th Amendment:
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AMENDMENT XXX (‘Sunset and Repeal of the 16th Amendment’)
To facilitate Age-Of-Awareness Connectivity In Funding The Federal Government Of The United States:
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Section 1.
All forms of federal taxation in the United States, and unto the territories of its jurisdiction, that are derived under the authority of the sixteenth article of amendment to the Constitution of the United States shall be abolished and repealed by April 16, 2022.
Section 2.
As of April 16, 2022, the sixteenth article of amendment to the Constitution of the United States is hereby repealed.
Section 3:
Enforcement of federal tax liabilities shall cease as of January 1, 2025 with exceptions granted to active judicial proceedings initiated before January 1, 2025.
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By ‘Age Of Awareness’ means technologies of connectivity. These technologies did not exist in the 19th century nor st the time of the 1913 installation of the 16th Amendment. Had such suitable technology existed, the 16th Amendment would never have been installed. The 16th Amendment is in fact, a poorly designed instrument proffered by persons of poor judgment, lacking requisite information or awareness of purposes behind the original federal design. It is completely unsuitable in our Age of Awareness.
The 16th, 17th and 18th Amendments are all of the year 1913 and were all done in the era of Woodrow Wilson who either advocated for such amendments or failed to thwart their passage. The 18th was repealed but the 16th and 17th evolved slowly.
The 16th was particularly insidious as its original code was only 14 pages long and imposed a ‘Flat Tax’ rate of 7% on the wealthiest 2% of Americans and a rate of only 1% on the rest of Americans.
The ‘1%’ rate is still used to this day in attempts to impose a state income tax in states where no state income tax exists. The ‘1%’ rate appears innocent, non-threatening, innocuous. It is a backdoor quiet entry to grab power and control. Once inside the system it grows and creeps until it resembles what exists today. Therefore note, any INCOME TAX is a cancer because it is impossible to contain over time. It gives legislators a tool by which they can grab and solidify their own power (legislative angiogenesis).
There is a vastly superior alternative to the income tax. A consumption tax with impact floor is embodied in H.R. 25. Its superiority to any income tax scheme cannot be overstated.
Fearing an Article V convention of states is inappropriate. It amounts to not trusting, as they were called by the founding fathers, the “people”. Jefferson would be horrified!
We have lost the single most important working principle behind the document and its philosophy of governance, the actual representation of the people. Returning to the constitution as written must mean one representative for every 30,000 persons!
Does anyone know what it is now?
With the exception of single state nullification, I’m aboard.
About 720,000 per rep.
Single state nullification? What’s that? Was it somewhere in what I posted?
If I misread, and I apparently did, I apologize.
The 30-state quash amendment discussion is from The Liberty Amendments. But it was not born there. It provides a further check by state legislatures on federal government abuse of authority.
Had something like it been in play in the 1960s and 1970s, the Great Society, Roe V. Wade and so much more would never have seen the light of day.
30 state legislatures means 60 state legislative chambers (or 59 if Nebraska is in it). Such a high bar is hardly susceptible to abuse. It simply means that if people are frustrated with federal government abuse and their US Senators are not paying attention, then they have recourse via state legislative action.
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I like this. I have only in the last month become familiar with the Article V Convention of States. I’ve registered online with Convention of States website and been notified of a gathering next month that I plan to attend. Can you tell me if this is the proposed language or is this your own? I am very much in favor of your wording.
Take the wording to your COS meetings.
The wording was originally drafted by me but edited with many inputs by many Freepers. It’s rightfully an FR work product. Take it and spread it around.
COS is a fairly good outfit except I have issues now with Mark Levin.
Assembly of State Legislatures is also a really good outfit.
http://www.assemblystatelegislatures.com
ALEC American Legislative Exchange Council is outstanding
https://www.alec.org
Network with like-minded neighbors, friends. Define, plan, and divy up the workload to engage in networking issues with the above orgs and also your own state legislatures.
Also, you might contact the Trump Campaign and ask for a LIAISON to communicate back and forth on Trump’s call for a Constitutional Amendment for Term Limits. Because everyone knows the Washington swamp will never pass term limits.
Feel free to Freepmail me for anything.
I have contacted Trump through his website on this very issue. And will immediately go to the other links you offered. I did not realize CoS had a Levin connection. I do not like that man. I found CoS thru these Article V posts here on FR. Have been spending a good part of my spare time reading all articles under the Convention of States tag here but still catching up. Thank you again for the links.
We k now the politicians aren’t going to do what’s necessary, so what do COS opponents propose to correct the system?
I don't think there is anyone here who would disagree with that. But given the political Establishment's long record of just ignoring it and de facto overriding it, how do you propose that we get our leaders to obey it??
At least Article V gives us a method, and one provided for within the Constitution.
What's your better idea?
Thomas Jefferson
So you’re calling for violence?
When it’s time. Whenever that is.
For those who think the Article V process is too risky, I ask, "What other options do you see?"
To summarize from a previous post by GraceG:
1. Elect More Republicans - Failed due to RINO/Uni-party confluence.
2. Article V Convention of States to propose Amendments - Needed to try to take power from the federal government back to the states and reel in the federal leviathan.
3. State Nullification - Last ditch effort to try to take power back from the federal monster, though by this point it may be too late.
4. State Secession - Could either end up peaceably like the breakup of the Czechoslovakia in 1993 or a brutal:
5. Civil War II like the first one.... The longer we wait on #2, the more likely #3, then #4 and finally #5. .
So, do we do nothing and just wait for # 5?
Quick review: We need 34 states to pass an application, then Congress shall, by law, call a Convention of States as soon as it receives applications from 2/3 of the State Legislatures. That's 34 states. (So far both legislative chambers of 6 States, {Alabama, Alaska, Florida, Georgia, Indiana and Tennessee}, have completely passed their resolutions and 36 state legislative chambers or bodies have filed or passed resolutions.) Amendments are proposed and voted on at the convention. Each Amendment must be ratified by 3/4 of the states in order to become part of the US Constitution. That's 38 states.
There are multiple arguments against a COS. Do not be dissuaded. In reality, there are so many checks and balances against a runaway convention that the risk is near zero. As nathanbefored said, “It requires only 13 statehouse legislatures from 13 different states out of 99 legislatures in 50 states to block an amendment. The problem is not a runaway convention, the problem is getting any amendment through."
"There are far more political and legal constraints on a runaway convention than on a runaway Congress." - Robert Natelson
Most FReepers are aware of these links, but I post anyway for review and for people new to Article V. It is our responsibility to make Article V the most understood aspect of the US Constitution.
****Please see this summary video from Alabama first: Convention of States - Alabama Way to go Alabama! A great introduction!
***Another good introduction video Convention of States: The Plan to Restore America
***For the Young People Overview of the COS Project at Washington Freedom Summit Laura Fennig, a COS Grassroots Coordinator, describes the COS Project plan and how you can get involved!
Rep. Bill Taylor introduces a Convention of States
Convention of States Live! with Mike Farris
The Case for an Article V Convention. Great explanation of an Article V convention to the Massachusetts State Legislature.
**** Convention of States Lots of information here.
**** Article V Blog by Jacquerie. Excellent and worth following.
**** Mark Levin, Constitution Article V, and the Liberty Amendments A great overview of Article V.
Learn about the Convention of States The Problem, the Solution and the Strategy
Call a Convention A call for a Convention of States
Missouri state senator delivers amazing testimony (video) Reasoned speech on why we need an Article V Convention.
Article V Project to Restore Liberty Another good source.
Mark Levin’s Liberty Amendments: Introduction
Mark Levin’s Liberty Amendments: The Federalist I
Mark Levin’s Liberty Amendments: The Federalist II
Mark Levin’s Liberty Amendments: Part IV
Cultural Marxism and the need for an Article V COS by Hostage
Convention of States model Resolution
A Summary of Mark Levin’s Proposed Amendments by Jacquerie
Chapter 1 of Mark Levin’s Book, The Liberty Amendments
Mark Levin, Constitution Article V, and the Liberty Amendments
Mark Levin: "The Liberty Amendments" - Complete Sean Hannity Special + other Links
List of Mark Levin You Tube Videos
Citizens for Self-Governance: Convention of States Project Youtube hub - Lots of educational videos here
Mark Levin Article V, Liberty Amendments youtube video hub
Three hour video of C-Span interview with Mark Levin
*** Mark Levin's ALEC Speech, Dec 4, 2014
Gaining Steam? Nearly 100 Lawmakers Descend on Mount Vernon to Talk Convention of States The beginning.
Curing Federal Dysfunction by Constitutional Amendment: A Primer Professor Rob Natelson
Our American Constitution, Article V Rob Natelson's Article V articles
We can fight the uniparty! States, the Natural Second Party by Jacquerie
Convention to Propose Amendments to the United States Constitution
The Other Way to Amend the Constitution: The Article V Constitutional Convention Amendment Process
Friends of Article V Convention Links
The Indiana Statute that will Govern their Delegates
Congress' Present Duty to Call a Convention:
Congress' Present Duty to Call a Convention. (Part I)
Congress' Present Duty to Call a convention. (Part II)
Congress' Present Duty to Call a Convention. (Part III)
Congress' Present Duty to Call a Convention. (Part IV)
Congress' Present Duty to Call a Convention. (Part V)
Congress' Failure to Call an Amendments Convention. (Part VI)
The 17th Amendment – A Mistake That Keeps on Giving
Ulysses at the Mast: Democracy, Federalism, and the Sirens' Song of the Seventeenth Amendment by Jay Bybee. Repeal the 17th! Shorter Abstract here: Ulysses at the Mast, one page Abstract
****For those of you that still have doubts about the Article V process, please review: Responses To Convention Of States Opposition My initial concerns were resolved after reading these articles. My attitude now is Go For It!
Sarah Palin: Debunking the myths of a Convention of States
A Single-Subject Convention Addresses the "runaway convention" fear.
John Birch Society Denies Its History and Betrays Its Mission The original Birchers were for an Article V Convention.
Update: Convention of States by the numbers The current State count
Convention of States Gaining Momentum
Assembly of State Legislatures – Article V
***Indiana Statute - Duties of Article V Convention Delegates A good example for other states and one of the safeguards.
****Proposing Constitutional Amendments by a Convention of States - An Article V Handbook for State Legislators An important resource.
****State Initiation of Constitutional Amendments: A Guide for Lawyers and Legislative Drafters The Bible on Convention of States
**** State Legislators Article V Caucus State Legislators, Join up at this site!
Most State Legislatures are in session now. Send this list of links to your State Representatives and Senators here: Contact your State Legislators.
Sample Letter to state Representatives regarding the Convention of States Project and also, Talking Points.
Excellent Article V Letter to a State Assemblyman by Jacquerie
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." - Edmund Burke.
Let’s all work together to get this going!
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