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The polls sure are going against what the MSM is saying about Hillary winning. Does not look like Hillary is going to win Pennsylvania either.
1 posted on 10/27/2016 8:51:46 AM PDT by GilGil
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To: GilGil

This poll has flaws, as far as I am concerned:

1. over sample of women
2. over sample of blacks and hispanics / under sample whites
3. over sample of urban areas

However, if blacks are voting Trump anywhere over 15%, let alone 30%, it is game over. Period. It is President Trump.


32 posted on 10/27/2016 9:15:48 AM PDT by rigelkentaurus
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Can you image what those numbers would be if only the media just reported things fairly and honestly?

I’d bet that Trump would win over at least half of the African-American voters.


34 posted on 10/27/2016 9:16:49 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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But only leading with White voters 45 - 42 ...

I would need a lot more data points to believe either case is accurate.
36 posted on 10/27/2016 9:17:35 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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I’ve been predicting Trump wins NY since early in the year....based on this, even though PA, I still have reason to believe it will happen.


39 posted on 10/27/2016 9:18:46 AM PDT by reed13k
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http://www.politico.com/2012-election/results/president/pennsylvania/


42 posted on 10/27/2016 9:20:23 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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Trump is the first Republican in modern times to do real outreach to the AA community. He's speech in Charlotte was epic. It's resonating with those who are tired of hearing the same old political rhetoric every 4 years followed by nothing.

There's an eerie stillness going on as the establishment is watching the sea strangely pull back from the shore of the official narratives. Expect a tsunami on November 8th.

46 posted on 10/27/2016 9:26:28 AM PDT by AustinBill (consequence is what makes our choices real)
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This is GOP polling group, so I don’t know how accurate/biased they are for us.


47 posted on 10/27/2016 9:26:55 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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Does that mean the Philly turnout will be 129%?


48 posted on 10/27/2016 9:28:23 AM PDT by airborne (I don't always scream at the TV but when I do it's hockey playoffs season!)
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Let’s see what happens. Obama is calling everyone to go out and vote and how Trump would mean disaster for the country in the ads for Hillary on TV and youtube right now. That might change things, or might not, we will see.


52 posted on 10/27/2016 9:32:06 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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The internals of this poll, if anywhere near accurate spell DOOM for Hillary in PA.. in spite of the fact it concludes she has a lead.... By the numbers....

She’s losing Erie and Harrisburg... both of went OBama in 12... Erie gave Obame 20k, she’s only up 2% in Pitt, an area OBama in 12 won by something like 18%... Pitt gave Obama 90,000 votes.. Hillary if these numbers are accurate is down about 100k votes in W PA from Obamas numbers in 12... (he won by about 300k total)

Hillary basically has to rely almost entirely on Philly region to win PA.. She has no help of consequence coming from W PA... if the polling numbers are accurate... she’ll only net about 10k extra votes in WPA... compared to Obamas 120k there.

Trump on the other hand, should EASILY outperform Bush, McCain and Romney’s showings of ~2.7M votes each... I fully expect Trump to put 3M+ in the box on election day.. given just the registration R’s have gained over 100k since 12, and D’s have lost over 100k.. its a fair assumption that just on that alone Trump will likely get 100k more votes than any R in the last 3 cycles... putting his base at 2.8M... His enthusiasm and crossover appeal will get him several hundred thousand more.. I just see no way He puts less than 3M+ votes in the box...

By contrast Hillary has to perform as well as O in 12 or Kerry in 04 to get close to 3M... while at the same time obviously under performing them both in W PA... sections of the state that have given D’s 100K+ of their win totals in the last elections...

TO hit 3M votes, Hillary has to come out of Philly area even higher than Obama... and I just don’t see any way on gods green earth that’s happening.... Trump is going to outperform Bush 2, McCain and Romney, EVERYWHERE... and Hillary has to somehow find 100k+ or more votes just in the Philly region alone than Obama got in 12.... to stay competitive... and i just don’t see it happening.... basically she needs to nearly DOUBLE the performance Obama had in 12 out of the philly region to stay on par with a 3M vote total... assuming this poll is remotely accurate in its regional result break down, and I believe it is.

Add in the little tidbit that the post points out 29% support among blacks... (I don’t think Trump will actually get that much on election day) because if he gets that kind of support out of black voters in PA... Hillary just gets crushed... Her vote totals in Philly will be down huge, and she’s got no chance of even hitting the 2.7ish votes any nameless dog republican has shown they can put in the box for an R.

Less than 2 weeks to go, but I just don’t see how Hillary can win PA.. even with the typical philly fraud.


54 posted on 10/27/2016 9:35:08 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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Where is the demographic breakdown for this poll? Could be they only polled like 13 black people and 3 of them like Trump, but that wouldn’t be a statistically significant sample.


55 posted on 10/27/2016 9:43:43 AM PDT by Boogieman
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Trump only leads 45-42 among whites? If that is true, then the black vote for Trump won’t matter - he’ll lose.

I’m VERY skeptical about that 45-42 figure - it just doesn’t seem right at all.


57 posted on 10/27/2016 10:09:35 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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I would hope at least 50% of Blacks would support a better economy, better schools, lower taxes, jobs etc.

Liberals have done zip zero nada for Blacks, except keep them down.


58 posted on 10/27/2016 10:10:57 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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How does this compare to 2012?


60 posted on 10/27/2016 10:15:02 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Deplorables' Lives Matter)
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I think Trump will take PA, MI, MN and CO. Add FL and OH and its all over. He won’t need VA or WI.


66 posted on 10/27/2016 10:38:14 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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So if they go into the hood and gin up votes, it may help Trump!


68 posted on 10/27/2016 11:47:09 AM PDT by Defiant (#HillaryGropedMe when I tried to get her hands off my girlfriend.)
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