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Audio: Trump Top Adviser (Roger Stone) Obama Birth Certificate Not Real (Arpaio agrees:comments)
Boston Herald Radio ^ | September 16, 2016 | Roger Stone/John Sapochetti/Alex Reimer

Posted on 09/19/2016 2:46:11 PM PDT by Seizethecarp

REIMER: Obama did release his birth certificate, though, so what more does Donald Trump need to see, you think?

STONE: Well there are many people who are far more knowledgeable than I am about the internet and about the computerized graphics who have a belief that the document that was produced is not real. I don’t know. I’m not an expert on this. I also don’t really care in the sense that Obama’s presidency is essentially over. We’re not running against Barack Obama, at least not directly. Trump is running against four more years of Obama perhaps but Hillary Clinton is [his] opponent and this is a media-fostered distraction.

(Excerpt) Read more at birtherreport.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: arizona; birthers; naturalborncitizen; obama; rogerstone; sheriffarpaio
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To: poconopundit

I agree. It is “The Rule of Law” administered equally to all of us, that makes a “Republic” that Ben Franklin hoped we could keep.


61 posted on 09/19/2016 5:19:07 PM PDT by SirPeredur
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To: Godebert
RE: Mark Levin Attacks Birthers: Admits He Hasn't Studied Issue; Declares Canadian-Born Cruz Eligible

I listened to Mark Levin on this issue of Ted Cruz citizenship in this short YouTube you posted above.

Now that YouTube proves conclusively that Levin either doesn't know the requirement for a natural born citizen to become POTUS -- or he's covering up the truth with his weasel words.

Sorry, Mark Lie-vin, you don't get a pass on this one, not after you've bragged to everyone that you're a "Constitutional scholar". There's no way you are ignorant of this law. You're playing games with the law.

So I'm now beginning to question half the things this guy has preached to us over the years. Give off the air, Levine!

62 posted on 09/19/2016 5:30:18 PM PDT by poconopundit (When the people shall become so corrupted as to need despotic government. Franklin, Const. Conv.)
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To: Seizethecarp

Anyone who uses Photoshop knows it’s a fraudulent document.


63 posted on 09/19/2016 5:30:40 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

It is not a PDF document. If it were, it would not be possible to decompose the layers.


64 posted on 09/19/2016 5:33:09 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more.)
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To: SirPeredur
I agree. You may be interested in a FR vanity I posted a little while back entitled:

Citizenship Exam Question 12: What is the "Rule of Law"?

65 posted on 09/19/2016 5:36:18 PM PDT by poconopundit (When the people shall become so corrupted as to need despotic government. Franklin, Const. Conv.)
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To: Cobra64

Whatever it was it wasn’t created in 1961, unless you know of some magic computers that were out there.


66 posted on 09/19/2016 6:33:24 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: little jeremiah

I do not believe the info is real, you misunderstand. I merely mean with his fathers citizenship the birth certificate does not matter. Divided loyalties at birth.

Everyone was so busy foghting about the birth certificate they missed the elephant in the room. It does not matter where he was born he was ineligible anyway.


67 posted on 09/19/2016 7:32:05 PM PDT by walkingdead (It's easy, you just don't lead 'em as much....)
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To: Jack Black

I do not need courts to tell me what a natural born citizen is. I have known since I was a child.

The natural born clause was, and always will be, about divided loyalties at birth. Obama, Rubio, Cruz, non are qualified, and no “citizen at birth” is not the same as a natural born citizen.


68 posted on 09/19/2016 7:38:32 PM PDT by walkingdead (It's easy, you just don't lead 'em as much....)
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To: Reily

Speculative “what ifs” are not useful at this point. The research has been done.


69 posted on 09/19/2016 7:49:53 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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To: ScottinVA
"There is no gain to be had from pursuing this now."

I disagree completely.

Barry will serve out the remainder of the pResidency that he usurped.

However, if he can be shown to be ineligible and/or the fraud most of us know he is...that's a winner for the history books. Barry Soetoro, USURPER 2009 - 2017. That would look far better on a $100 dollar bill, or any number of statues that will no doubt go up after he leaves.

Need to look at this through the lens of posterity and the overall health of our republic, and not just for us in the here and now.

The truth always matters, no matter if it's timely or not.

70 posted on 09/19/2016 8:19:59 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid

Agree!


71 posted on 09/19/2016 8:29:24 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: rxsid

“Need to look at this through the lens of posterity and the overall health of our republic, and not just for us in the here and now.

“The truth always matters, no matter if it’s timely or not.”

That is what this has become since Barry was reelected. The Millennials who voted for Barry and the corrupt MSM must be taught a lesson for failing to vet him when the truth comes out.


72 posted on 09/19/2016 8:40:52 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

You missed the point and obviously do not understand computer graphics software.


73 posted on 09/19/2016 8:44:20 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more.)
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To: rxsid

IF he can be shown to be in office illegally.

However, in the heat of a campaign in which Trump has pulled even is not the time to address it.


74 posted on 09/19/2016 9:00:50 PM PDT by ScottinVA
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To: walkingdead

His pretend father made him ineligble. But the capons in Congress refused to do their duty.

Congress has been 0bola’s bitch.


75 posted on 09/19/2016 9:09:09 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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To: rxsid

I agree. It is the job of Congress, the Judiciary, and barring that, the military, to address the usurper. But none of them have, and until Jan. 20, none of them will. A private citizen can do nothing, many have tried. Once Trump is in office with his own DOJ, he can do something, and I am certain he will.


76 posted on 09/19/2016 9:11:07 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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To: SirPeredur; poconopundit
So, it is not possible to “Throw Out” anything an Officer of a nation has done, If he was honestly working for the good of his office.

But he wasn't. He was lying and committed crimes to get to the office illegally, and many others did as well.

77 posted on 09/19/2016 9:12:50 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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To: Seizethecarp

We have had expert after expert testify and post on numerous sites that both bc’s are phony as hell and even poor quality phonies at that.
The fact that talk radio,(so far) won’t back us up on this is sad.
Trump has had to back off on this for lack of support from those who should be kicking ass and are not.


78 posted on 09/20/2016 3:06:40 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Go Sarah go! America home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: Lurkinanloomin; LucyT; Fred Nerks; Brown Deer; Seizethecarp
This was posted on Zippo's campaign website in '08, no longer there.
“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children. Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.”
Sneaky....The Kenyan constitution does state that if you do not denounce your other citizenship and sware an oath to Kenya then you citizenship does in fact expire. But they give you a two year grace period so the date Aug 4, 1982 should read Aug 4, 1984. Big deal Greg...Well it is.Enter the British Nationality Act of 1981.
Every person who— (a)under [F105the British Nationality Acts 1981 and 1983][F106or the British Overseas Territories Act 2002] is a British citizen, a [F107British overseas territories citizen] , [F108a British National (Overseas),] a British Overseas citizen or a British subject; or (b)under any enactment for the time being in force in any country mentioned in Schedule 3 is a citizen of that country, shall have the status of a Commonwealth citizen.
emphasis mine

The UK was terminating the title of "subject" and replacing it with "Commonwealth Citizen" in this act. So the date above is relevant because the commencement date of the BNA 1981 was Jan 1, 1983 while Obama was still considered a Kenyan Citizen thus being a British Subject then became a "Commonwealth Citizen" of the UK. We have a Brit in the WH!

Copied from a post I did back in Aug 2013 in the comment section here

79 posted on 09/20/2016 7:00:58 AM PDT by GregNH (If you can't fight, please find a good place to hide!)
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To: GregNH

“As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.”

If you go into the text of the BNA it only seems to apply to BHO Sr’s UK LEGAL children. His bigamous marriage to Stanley Ann, never disclosed in the US, would never have been recogized as a valid UK marriage, IMO, thus Barry would never have qualified as a UK subject and dual US/UK national.

BHO Sr. had a tribal, NOT Muslim marriage to Kezia and was raised Christian and educated in Christian schools, not Muslim.

IMO, in summary, under UK Kenyan Colonial law Sr’s marriage to Stanley Ann was bigamous in HI and illegal and Barry was a bastard. Even if born in Kenya Barry would have been a citizen because naturalization passes from the mom to the son of a younger mom if the child is a bastard as an exception to avoid stateless children. Didn’t make him eligible to be POTUS. Just citizen back then. Of course now courts say anyone with a US parent or born on US soil can be POTUS.


80 posted on 09/20/2016 7:28:46 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
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