Posted on 06/27/2016 10:47:22 AM PDT by Talisker
Edited on 06/27/2016 11:20:01 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
I was verbally assaulted - and “assaulted” is, I think, the proper word here - by a middle-aged female Hillary supporter yesterday. It was quite a remarkable experience, like witnessing someone having a psychotic break, complete with rolling eyes, waving hands, rapid wall-talking, fantastical discussion positions and plenty of snarling personal insults - all while I barely said a word except to indicate, initially, that I was a Trump supporter.
I thought about it for a long time afterwards, because she was truly bat**** crazy, yet gave no indication of it until she suddenly shifted the discussion to politics.
And I’ve come to believe that what I was seeing in her behavior is best described by the word “panic.” She was literally acting out panic. Whatever she is a part of, that is linked to supporting Hillary, KNOWS the Bitch is going down. And so, the general feeling amongst her secret sorority is the level of alarm that hits when people realize that their entire building is on fire. She wasn’t just “supporting” Hillary - she was demanding, beseeching, pleading, raging and commanding I support Hillary, flying from talking point to talking point so fast I had no time for comment, nor did she care if I did. And all the while, she repeatedly claimed to "hate" Hillary.
Something very, very weird is going on. I saw it with my own eyes today. The rank and file are starting to panic. I would say that she actually wasn’t all that far from becoming violent - and at the same time, she would have been hardly aware of being so. This was not a normally demonstrative woman, yet she hadn’t a clue as to how completely out of control she had become - nor any idea that I was literally backing up as she ranted.
I predict ever increasing meltdowns as the months go by. I don’t advise arguing - just get away. Eventually, these people WILL become dangerous.
ADDENDUM: I've re-posted the above thread reply as a thread because I've realized I was looking at a trained technique, as well as panic. The woman I was witnessing was, and has been, a longtime Hillary supporter. But she was openly and emphatically stating she "hated" Hillary - but was going to vote for her. She claimed that she "loved Bernie," but now that he lost, Trump is so vile, so despicable, that she is "forced" to vote for Hillary even though she "hates" her, and - get this - anyone who is conflicted over Bernie losing, or Trump as the GOP candidate, SHOULDN'T VOTE AT ALL.
This is pretty extraordinary, not even counting the outrageous rudeness of it. It's an extremely calculated message, created by political and psychological analysists, and then dumped into soundbite traing sessions for common liberal idiots to regurgitate by the millions. Hillary's people know she is loathed, even by Democrats and especially by Berniebots, so first of all, her supporters are told NOT to openly support her. But they also know that millions of republicans don't like Trump. So what they've come up with is basically a reversal of what is actually going on - millions will vote for Trump to stop Hillary, because she will destroy the country and is simply not acceptable for any reason, not even mentioning all the vast crimes she dragging around. So - that's what they accuse Trump of. And they hit all of his strengths - he's not a busness success, but a failed businessman. The wall won't work and can't be financed. Muslims are being enraged by hims and so he's causing terrorism. Everything reversed, and logic and reality be damned. But, at the same time, nothing is ever said about Hillary, NOT by defending her, but rather by claiming to HATE her, and dismiss her.
Pretty slick, eh? They never have to defend Hillary. They just reject her, hate her, but dump tons and tons of slander on Trump, defend none of it (because they are merely listing talking points they've memorized). I was told, for example, that the Great Wall of China "proves" that the Mexican wall could never work. What?! But then motormouth moved on to the next "point," rapidfire. Because what they are trained to do is a braindump - NOT a discussion, and NEVER a defense of Hillary. What they do is work themselves into a yelling froth against Trump, wistfully weep for Bernie, profess hatred for Hillary and then... then... conclude that they have two choices "forced" on them - to not vote at all, or vote "against" Trump by voting for Hillary. Both of which, of course, serving Hillary's purposes, depending on who they are talking to.
And if you indicate you've read up on issues, you will be immediately rejected. Finally, for example, I made a comment to refute one of her talking points with some deeper facts and knowledge, specifically that Trump was NOT, in fact a "racist and misogynist." Rather, I said that he pointed where people claimed their own race as backing for their actions, and he specifically decried cultures which enslave women as property. She immediately stopped, gazed at me and then said, "well, if you're a Fox News Republican, I can't talk to you" - and suddenly walked away!
Now, I'm not a Fox News anything, nor Republican, really, given that the entire party has been outed as RINOs. But that's not the point - her phrase, "Fox News Republican" is what THEY are trained to call anyone who has accessed and considered Non-Democrat-Approved Media. And of course, that means such people can recognize their bullshit AS bullshit, and so the entire screed, acting job and effort is pointless.
So, in such cases, they are taught to dehumanize such people, and they do it in two ways - 1st, LABEL them. It's an Alinsky tactic to create the "other" as against the "group." 2nd - REJECT them, utterly, completely, suddenly and totally. And lest you think I'm being overly dramatic here, this is exactly the first two stages of what communist countries use before they actually destroy human beings - the third stage, of course, being arrest and/or simply being killed. Read up on Soviet Russia and China - this is no exaggeration. It's just that it's never been deplayed by the millions here, so Americans aren't used to recognizing what they are seeing. But conservative who comes across one of these members of "Hillary's Army" will have no doubt that that person could, and would, easily send them to a concentration camp if they had the power. No doubt at all - because they WANT you to know it. To them, you're either IN, or OUT, and they want to know, RIGHT NOW, which one you are.
Even without the final stage, though, it's a psychologically brutal tactic, even from someone I found revolting, because it's a sudden and dramatically enacted effect that is derived from the tactic itself. I'm telling you, these people are TRAINED by real bastards - and they are dedicated as any Chekist ever was. In fact, EXACTLY as Chekists were, which is why Eastern Europeans shudder at what they're seeing here.
And that's why I'm writing this - because this is ALL calculated stuff, folks. So don't be fooled by the wild-eyed maniac in front of you - they've sat in training sessions. They've memorized talking points and practiced their deliveries. Yes, her. Yes, him. The mild-mannered neighbor, the casual acquaintance, the workers you know, family members - all of them. THIS is how Hillary's money is being used: mind and behavior control.
With one exception - right now, they are afraid. Something is wrong, and they feel it, and they know it, because their handlers, their trainers, their superiors are SCARED. And so THEY are scared, too - even, as I observed, panicked. Because Hillary was never, ever supposed to face Trump, or anyone like Trump, ever. And while they are all getting as dirty as they can, they are still scared, because they have to fight now - for real. And that wasn't supposed to happen - ever.
So walk away from them. Don't engage. In THEIR minds they are cornered animals and YOU are threatening them just by existing. Yes, that is madness. But that is what they are - insane.
Wolves are high on the mountain
Coming down at night.
LOL!
I do mine in Yodaisms!
A hairy beast is Hillary! A wookie she is!
LOL, I would make it even more casually before you become a casualty. When you see her, make a cross with your fingers and walk away from her.
I have those wastrels in my family too. So much time and effort has gone into “understanding them” and “meeting them halfway”. I am done with that. Thus, a haiku:
She’s “schizophrenic,
Paranoid with delusions”
We just say “leftist”
Yes, it's a cult of personality. There's nothing rational about it.
To be fair, I've seen some of that behavior among Trump supporters, even here on FR. But, it's much less pronounced -- and in most cases it is less pro-Trump and more anti-GOPe.
While I don't think it's productive for Trump to antagonize the GOPe, I do think he should try to tap into the disgust with the "Uniparty". There is a huge bloc of people that don't vote simply because they are dissatisfied with the choices offered by the major parties, and think voting for a third party is a waste of their time. If Trump can tap into that group and bring even a small percentage to the polls in November -- especially in the battleground states -- he can sew up the election.
Very nicely played
A haiku based on your photo:
Leary of Kukris
They just look odd-shaped to me
Fear for my knuckles!
Yeah well, needless to say there won't be a repeat.
Wish you had recorded it. :)
They are very afraid and they should be. But I say if you confront someone like this call for the guys with the net and straight jacket. Have them hauled off to the nut house.
You need to make her feel embarrassed, if that is even possible for a liberal.
I do feel that these people need to be engaged though, because some of these people can be helped. I firmly believe that if Trump wins there will be suicides, and that is a tragedy because the people manipulating them don't care about them.
Someting like 60 PERCENT don't vote for exactly those reasons. And I believe a lot of them are VERY interested in The Donald. Even ten percent of them make it a blowout.
I thought Elaine was great on Seinfeld, though.
Not surprised she’s hanging around Hillary.
<:O
You’re right that such rapid fire, bombastic “debate” tactics dehumanize people, and you’re right to assess they come from a feeling of panic. Don’t fall into the same trap though.
“So don’t be fooled by the wild-eyed maniac in front of you - they’ve sat in training sessions. They’ve memorized talking points and practiced their deliveries. Yes, her. Yes, him. The mild-mannered neighbor, the casual acquaintance, the workers you know, family members - all of them. THIS is how Hillary’s money is being used: mind and behavior control.”
No. This is itself “dehumanizing”. No one is “sitting in on training sessions” learning about “mind control” techniques. Again, such beliefs only further dehumanize leftist/conservative interactions.
They are just people like the rest of us. I know it’s fashionable (on FR) to describe them in inhuman terms like “demons” and “robots” and certainly many display such traits from time to time but they aren’t less human than we are. Bottom line they use the rapid fire debate technique because it works. And that’s all they’ve ever leanrned. I’ve met plenty of “conservatives” who debate the same way too though and I’m not talking about on FR.
Lay out a slew of talking points, call you “communist” if you disagree and suggest immediate self deportation as the remedy. This is no better than the inanity you described from your leftist associate. And no one is taking courses on mind control.
The best way to counter such behavior is to do exactly what you did, attempt reasonable discourse and when/if that doesn’t work just let the loon make a fool of herself. Exactly like you did.
Just leave the conspiracy theories about their tactics on the Internet. It’s dehumanizing. And thus destructive.
Two years EDC
Can scratch my ass in the dark
Germans make good knives ;)
Pick one thing, and do it well!
Why were you wasting time like that? Oh, and that was quite an insult to bats...
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