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This is the Game of Thrones S06E05 discussion thread. If you haven't seen this episode yet there may be spoilers here.
Not to mention Hordor.
It started out so Promising with Dany getting it through her thick Skull about Jorah.
I didn't like that with Hodor at all. :'(
They keep trying to top themselves with Shock Deaths. Since it worked so well on the Show with Tywin and the Red Viper, but they are trying too hard.
Shireen, Stannis, Roose Bolton, Osha, Shaggydog (off screen), now Summer and Hordor.
I don't know if GRRM needs to step in, give a gentle but firm backhand to the writer and write another episode to put things back on track or what.
. Hordor
hordor
This is not that good a show - I am often bored to tears.
Awesome!
Episode was awesome.
I’m very sad about Hodor, and even sadder about Summer.
All good dogs die, and good giants too.
Seems like Tormund Giantsbane is now Tormund Briennesbane.
That part made me laugh.
Sansa is becoming much less stupid too. Yay!
#SaveTheDireWolves!
I’m with you there. Not a good show, maybe I’ve been spoiled so far this season.
Hordor - hold the door.
Yeah, he got those eyes for Brienne for sure. She is not amused.
Hodor
Daaaaamn, a bit of Arthur C Clarke ‘Childhood’s End’ racial memory there?
It’s Hodor, not Hordor...
“Sansa is becoming much less stupid too. Yay!”
Showed uncommon poise with Littlefinger.
Easy to have Brienne cut him in half as he so well deserves, but she’s playing the long game here.
Strongest she has ever been. Damn.
GRRM planned Hodars death like that from the beginning.
She’s pregnant with Ramsey’s child too.
What I am wondering is... where will Yara and Theon take their fleet of ships and the Ironborn who are loyal to them? I don’t think they’re going back to Pike (they’d just be trapped and seiged), and going to the North is out because everyone there hates them. They don’t have friends anywhere else in Westeros that I can think of either. I’m thinking they may sail to Essos and try to find Dany before Euron can.
From Game of Thrones 6.5 The Door
Whatchu Talking Bout, Wylis?
There once was a boy the size of two grown men
A boy who served the Starks from barn to the glen.
Gentle, kind, and fiercely loyal, too,
Wylis was always ready for a task needed to do.We meet him when hes aged quite a lot
Grey hair, a soft belly, and his mind turned to rot.
He can say only his name, Hodor it seems.
Hodor, the funny name that begat memes.It was the only word the man could say,
Hodor! when asked how was his day.
Hodor? when asked how he liked his fish.
Hodor when asked for his fondest wish.For years we laughed and smiled at him,
This giant man, an unknown past so grim.
Hodor hed say with eyes so sad.
Hodor? hed ask when Osha was mad. Hodor, hed sigh when night grew dark.
Hodor! hed cry when missing Rickon Stark.
Hodor? hed ask when tasks were assigned.
Hodor, hed murmur when going blind.Bran cared for Hodor like a pet dog,
Mildly offput when Bran needed to Warg
into this giant, a giant who wouldnt fight!
This giant, one who was scared of night!This gentle man who shouldered a lot,
This gentle giant whose life was naught
but to serve House Stark for all his days
truly living them out in a wary haze.Did he remember the cave? The beasts within?
Did he remember the fright and the cold on his skin?
Did he remember the horses, his mother, the yard,
anything good before Bran had to Warg?Or did he spend all his life remembering pain,
the stabbing, the tearing, the muscle strain
of standing between Death and for whom he forswore,
the echoing cry of: Hold the door.Hold the door! he heard and hold the door he did.
Hold the door he cried out, though he was just a kid.
A child, really, trapped out of body and time,
Hold the door he managed for his whole lifetime.He never wavered. He never did cease.
Hold the door, he still uttered though it gave him no peace.
He held the door in his mind for decades, it seems.
Hold the door must have haunted his unending dreams.Hold the door, he died crying, Hold the door! he exclaimed.
Hodor/Wylis the brave. The kind. The first of his name.
“I don’t know if GRRM needs to step in, give a gentle but firm backhand to the writer and write another episode to put things back on track or what.”
Martin is the one who killed off Hodor. The TV show’s producers merely included that info in the show. The after show - the “making of the show” segment - makes that clear. Martin had always planned to bump off Hodor at that time (”Hodor” = “Hold the door” after all).
And all the wolves will die (most probably). The Stark children will stand on their own without their wolves. Maybe Ghost will survive - after all Ghost survived his master (for a while).
Don’t forget the Children of the Forest were also wiped out last night. A whole race may have been destroyed in that episode. Hodor and Summer were small potatoes compared to them.
She was rejected at a young age. Maybe she'll find happiness at last.
Bingo. Then when Dany defeats Euron she will have TWO fleets.
Hodor, oh no, hopefully he is not R.I.P.
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