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Congress votes to ban Confederate flags from VA cemeteries
The Christian Science Monitor ^ | May 22, 2016 | Madison Margolin

Posted on 05/22/2016 6:17:11 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Congress passed a proposal on Thursday that essentially bans Confederate flags from national cemeteries. With a 265-159 vote, the proposal makes it illegal to display the Confederate flag in Department of Veteran Affairs cemeteries – even on individual grave sites that honor soldiers who fought for the Confederacy, except on Memorial Day and Confederate Memorial Day.

Introduced by Rep. Jared Huffman (D) of California, the proposal received support from 84 Republicans and all but two Democrats. Rep. Sanford Bishop (D) of Georgia, a member of the Congressional Black Caucus, voted against the amendment, while Representative Betty McCollum (D) of Minnesota voted "present."

Huffman's proposal was added as an amendment to the Veteran Affairs spending bill, and it remains uncertain whether it will become law....

(Excerpt) Read more at csmonitor.com ...


TOPICS: Government; History; Politics
KEYWORDS: 114th; bettymccollum; california; cbc; confederacy; dixie; georgia; jaredhuffman; kentucky; madisonmargolin; memorialday; minnesota; randpaul; sanfordbishop; speakerryan
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To: Jim from C-Town

They should ban the US flag as well because of the oppressive “Black Code” laws the Northern states had that treated negroes as bad or worse than slave holders in the South.


61 posted on 05/23/2016 5:33:41 AM PDT by tbpiper
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s clobberin’ time. This is an issue that desperately needed to be addressed?


62 posted on 05/23/2016 5:36:18 AM PDT by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Western Civilization- whisper the words, and it will disappear. So let us talk now about rebirth.)
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To: Viking2002; All

Viking2002 wrote: SOMEONE POST A LIST OF THE OFFENDING RINOs............

I agree, but make it an issue. What is the House bill number on this this and why did Ryan let this come up for a vote ? List both sides who voted for this. We got federal agencies running amock and this piece of PC revisionist krap is what they see as important.


63 posted on 05/23/2016 5:53:08 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (My best insights get lost in FR's becaus e of meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: central_va
You'd do well to carefully read my post.

I did not compare the CSA to Japan or Germany.

Of course, you're probably too stupid to discern that.

64 posted on 05/23/2016 6:16:48 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Hieronymus

Find a zip code in his district and use that. Your email will be accepted.


65 posted on 05/23/2016 6:37:18 AM PDT by jch10 (Hillary in the Big House, not the White House .)
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To: Texas Yellow Rose

The Confederate flag is the flag of treason. So I take it The Stars And Stripes doesn’t suit you, does it?


66 posted on 05/23/2016 9:53:47 AM PDT by jmacusa ("Dats all I can stands 'cuz I can't stands no more!''-- Popeye The Sailorman.)
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To: Nellie Wilkerson
Read how the Constitution defines treason. And they were dividing the nation in the pursuit of preserving slavery.
67 posted on 05/23/2016 9:55:30 AM PDT by jmacusa ("Dats all I can stands 'cuz I can't stands no more!''-- Popeye The Sailorman.)
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To: Windflier

Your forebears fought to preserve slavery. God Almighty I’m so bloody sick of you Confederates. You started a war and lost. Get over it. Are you an American or a Confederate?


68 posted on 05/23/2016 9:58:15 AM PDT by jmacusa ("Dats all I can stands 'cuz I can't stands no more!''-- Popeye The Sailorman.)
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To: jmacusa

“Your forebears fought to preserve slavery.”

You don’t know jack about my forebears, or why some of them fought for the Confederacy.

My family shed blood on both sides of that conflict, jerkwad.

And for your information, I fly Old Glory outside my house 24/7/365.

FOAD.


69 posted on 05/23/2016 10:08:32 AM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: jmacusa

I disagree for reasons in my previous posts. Any further comments are not necessary.


70 posted on 05/23/2016 10:16:31 AM PDT by Texas Yellow Rose
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To: pboyington

I wouldn’t say he’s THE most beloved. But definitely up there.

Washington was absolutely worshipped. For generations.


71 posted on 05/23/2016 12:20:41 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: Windflier

” . . . in my Texas town, youngsters still fly the confederate flag on their pickups.”

They do it here also. I give them a thumbs-up when I see them and they grin and wave back. :^D


72 posted on 05/23/2016 4:32:53 PM PDT by Old Grumpy
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Wow. Irony’s lost on you isn’t it.


74 posted on 05/23/2016 6:42:10 PM PDT by jmacusa ("Dats all I can stands 'cuz I can't stands no more!''-- Popeye The Sailorman.)
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To: jmacusa

I know how the Constitution defines treason. Secession is not treason, not even close. Confederates didn’t divide the nation. They LEFT it — the states that remained in the union were still united.

Secession was partly over slavery, but secession is not war so the Constitutional definition of treason does not apply to secession.

And the fighting did not start over slavery. Lincoln’s proclamation calling for volunteers to come South said nary a syllable about slaves, slavery or freeing. That was tacked on well into the fighting.


76 posted on 05/23/2016 10:42:02 PM PDT by Nellie Wilkerson
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To: jmacusa

You couldn’t possibly be as bloody sick of us as we are of you.

My forebears did not fight to preserve slavery, and most Confederate soldiers did not fight for that. Thousands of their letters prove it. Even McPherson, who is certainly not Confederate friendly, admits that.

A few states seceded in part over slavery — among other things. The states of the upper South seceded because Lincoln tried to coerce them into sending troops to invade the seceded states. See, it’s not as cut and dried as the all-slavery, only-slavery folks like to make it seem.

Moreover, it is open to question that the Confederates started the war. People say “firing the first shot” (at Sumter) started the war, but the firing was in response to aggression (Anderson moving troops into Sumter and threatening Charleston in dispatches sent north, that he knew authorities in Charleston would intercept and read). That aggression, that move to the fort, which preceded the firing and caused it, is what started the war. Without it, there would have been no start.

Am I an American or a Confederate? Yes. There is no “OR”. They’re not mutually exclusive. Confederates were Americans, for the same reason we are ... it is part of our national name, just as it was theirs. See? Fill in the blank: The Confederate States of _______. I’ll give you a hint: it starts with A and it ends with a, and it ain’t Antarctica.

What I am is a Southerner. That is my primary identification — it has been since before I could articulate it — and the South, including its time as a separate nation, the CSA, is what gives meaning to the United States, for me. So in that sense, yes, I’m a Confederate.

https://youtu.be/2O9ojPVG1Pg


77 posted on 05/23/2016 11:04:30 PM PDT by Nellie Wilkerson
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To: Nellie Wilkerson

Oh please Madame. You can’t be that stupid. They fought to preserve an evil institution of an economy based on the use of slave labor. All their efforts, whether they believed it or not were put to that end. They weren’t fighting in a separate universe so spare me your revisionist history. “Yes what? Are you an American or a Confederate? I’m an American, not a Northerner or a “Yankee’’. My allegiance to this great nation is not predicated on a particular point on a compass. Get used to me. As long as you Rebs go on with your nonsense I’ll be here to speak for my ancestors.


78 posted on 05/24/2016 1:20:22 PM PDT by jmacusa ("Dats all I can stands 'cuz I can't stands no more!''-- Popeye The Sailorman.)
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To: Nellie Wilkerson

Good God you live in your own world. I’ve never heard such twaddle in all my life.


79 posted on 05/24/2016 1:45:04 PM PDT by jmacusa ("Dats all I can stands 'cuz I can't stands no more!''-- Popeye The Sailorman.)
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To: jmacusa

You don’t venture out past your indoctrination much, do you?


80 posted on 05/24/2016 4:23:39 PM PDT by Nellie Wilkerson
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