Posted on 05/17/2016 11:05:42 AM PDT by TMSuchman
Hello Folks, this thread is either way late of very early [depending on how you look at it] . I have been getting notices from the State of Missouri Dept. of Conservation, about the deer population/s within our state. In one of our earlier discussions I brought up the subject of problems in prepping & food sourcing, like this. Here are a couple of the email I got;
Arkansas deer disease findings prompt Missouri to increase sample collecting
May 17, 2016 By Alisa Nelson
The discovery this spring of 86 cases of chronic wasting disease (CWD) in northern Arkansas has led the Missouri Department of Conservation to increase sample collection for testing of the disease. This 10-point buck and other deer in the state are at greater risk for the spread of disease due to the drought. (photo credit, Noppadol Paothong)
This 10-point buck and other deer in the state are at greater risk for the spread of disease due to the drought. (photo credit, Noppadol Paothong)
CWD is a disease that is spread from deer to deer and is fatal to all deer it infects. This neurological disease infects only deer and other members of the cervid family by causing degeneration of brain tissue.
As has been MDC’s procedure since Missouri’s first positive CWD case was confirmed in 2010, the agency has increased sample collecting and surveillance around areas where the disease has been found. A focus area of 50 miles from Arkansas’ CWD positive tests has been established. This consists of the Missouri counties of Barry, Christian, Douglas, Ozark, Stone and Taney. Since mid-spring, MDC staff has increased efforts in these counties to collect samples from sick and road-killed deer to test for CWD.
It’s important to note that, though the current effort represents sample collecting of a greater magnitude in southern Missouri, this isn’t the first time samples have been collected in this part of the state. Since 2002, MDC has conducted statewide vigilance for the disease in accordance with its CWD surveillance and management plan. In addition to this watchfulness across the state, MDC has periodically intensified sample collection in some parts of Missouri, either on a rotational basis to make sure all parts of the state are being tested or because the detection of a positive case has warranted increased focus on a particular area.
MDC’s current statewide surveillance (“statewide” being defined as meaning outside of counties that have already been established as CWD Management Zone focus counties) concentrates on one-half of the state each year. For the 2015-2016 deer hunting seasons, MDC’s focus was on southern Missouri. Most of these samples came from hunter-harvested deer and were collected by cooperating taxidermists.
To date, more than 51,000 deer have been tested for CWD in Missouri. A total of 27 cases of the disease have been confirmed in the state. These have been found in the northeast, central and east-central portions of the state. At present, no animals collected from southern Missouri have tested positive for CWD.
MDC is maintaining close contact with Arkansas Game and Fish personnel to monitor findings and collaboratively interpret what this means for our state.
As always, MDC appreciates assistance from the public. Anyone who sees a deer portraying signs of illness or abnormal behavior is encouraged to call their local MDC office or contact the county’s conservation agent. The more details callers can provide (gender of animal, location, etc.), the better the deer can be located and the situation assessed.
More information can be obtained by calling MDC’s Southwest Regional Office in Springfield, (417) 895-6880 or MDC’s Ozark Regional Office in West Plains, (417) 256-7161. Information on CWD can also be found at mdc.mo.gov.
And this;
MDC reminds public to not feed deer in CWD counties Regulation banning feeding deer in 29 counties starts May 30. JEFFERSON CITY, Mo. – The Missouri Department of Conservation (MDC) reminds landowners, deer hunters, and others that a regulation banning the feeding of deer becomes effective on May 30 for 29 counties in north-central, central, and east-central Missouri.Grain, salt products, minerals, and other consumable products used to attract deer are now prohibited year-round in the following 29 counties: Adair, Boone, Callaway, Carroll, Chariton, Crawford, Cole, Cooper, Franklin, Gasconade, Jefferson, Knox, Linn, Livingston, Macon, Miller, Moniteau, Morgan, Osage, Putnam, St. Charles, St. Louis, Randolph, Schuyler, Scotland, Shelby, Sullivan, Washington, and Warren. Exceptions to the regulation include feeding wildlife within 100 feet of any residence or occupied building, feed placed in a manner that excludes access by deer, and feed and minerals used solely for normal agricultural, forest management, or wildlife food-plot-production practices. The feeding ban is one step MDC is taking to limit the spread of Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD), a fatal neurological disease that infects only deer and other members of the deer family. The disease has no vaccine or cure and is 100-percent fatal. CWD is spread from deer to deer and the potential for transmission increases when deer gather in larger, concentrated numbers, such as at feeding sites. The 29 counties affected by the feeding ban comprise the Department’s CWD Management Zone. The zone consists of counties within or that touch a radius of approximately 25 miles from where CWD has been found. According to MDC, 33 free-ranging deer in Missouri have tested positive for the disease with 21 found in Macon County, 9 in Adair, one in Cole, one in Franklin, and one in Linn. Other MDC actions to limit the spread of CWD The ban on feeding deer is one of several actions MDC is taking to help limit the spread of CWD. MDC also collects tissue samples from several thousand harvested, sick, and road-killed wild deer around the state each year to test for CWD. The sampling efforts focus both on areas where CWD has been found and on broader, statewide testing. The Department will increase its CWD sampling and testing efforts in north-central, central, and east-central Missouri this fall by requiring hunters who harvest deer in one of the 29 CWD-Management-Zone counties during the opening weekend of the fall firearms deer season (Nov. 12 and 13) to present their deer (or the head with at least six inches of the neck intact) for CWD testing at one of 75 MDC sampling locations on the day of harvest. The testing is free and hunters can also get free test results. Sampling locations will be listed in the Department’s 2016 Fall Deer & Turkey Hunting Regulations and Information booklet and online at mdc.mo.gov. MDC has also removed the antler-point restriction in all CWD-Management-Zone counties starting this fall so young bucks are no longer protected from harvest. Young bucks can potentially spread the disease to new areas as they search for territories and mates. The Department has also increased the availability of firearms antlerless permits from 1 to 2 in all CWD-Management-Zone counties starting this fall to help prevent undesired population increases in local deer numbers. MDC also strongly discourages the removal of deer carcasses from CWD-Management-Zone counties. Moving carcasses of potentially infected deer out of the immediate area where they were harvested and improperly disposing of them can also spread the disease. Certain carcass parts, such as boned out meat, are okay to move because the protein that causes CWD is not concentrated in these parts. Learn more about CWD at mdc.mo.gov/CWD. MDC reminds landowners, deer hunters, and others that a regulation banning the feeding of deer becomes effective on May 30 in the shaded counties of the CWD Management Zone. And to include this about wild swine;
State destroys 100 hogs on Mid-Missouri farm Ag officials suspect herd infected with pseudorabies May 12th, 2016 by Jenny Gray in Local News Read Time: 2 mins.
A feral hog in Missouri.
Photo by University of Missouri Extension
About 100 hogs were destroyed recently at a Callaway County farm, suspected of contracting a disease known as pseudorabies.
The disease was most likely contracted from feral hogs, according to a statement emailed by Sarah Alsager, public information officer with the Missouri Department of Agriculture. It is a disease of the central nervous system that causes convulsions and intense itching, and is usually fatal.
Alsager stated department officials discovered a positive result for pseudorabies when testing feral hogs in the area in which the farm is located.
"As part of the department's disease surveillance for pseudorabies and brucellosis, feral swine are routinely tested. When MDA is informed of positive results, we conduct an investigation to identify any at-risk swine within a one- to two-mile radius of the captured feral swine," she said in the email. "At-risk swine herds are tested and appropriate actions are taken, which may include re-testing a herd (if there are not any indications of disease) or depopulating a herd (if re-testing is not an option or animals are exhibiting clinical signs of disease)."
She did not state exactly where the farm is located or who owned the pigs.
"The department was notified of a positive result and identified an at-risk swine herd within the area of the feral swine that was captured," she said in the email statement. "A group from the herd was tested and determined to be serologically positive for pseudorabies. Due to the nature and exposure of the operation, a decision was made to respond proactively and depopulate the herd."
She also said a producer receives payment based on the current market price if his herd is depopulated.
Anyone seeing feral hogs on public or private property may report them to the Missouri Department of Conservation by calling 573-522-4115, ext. 3296 or online at http://on.mo.gov/1VUbzY5.
Feral hogs also may be reported to the Missouri Department of Agriculture State Veterinarian's office at 573-751-3377.
Adult feral hogs average about 110 to 130 pounds, but they can weigh up to 400 pounds. They stand about 3 feet tall and can grow up to 5 feet in length. Their color varies from solid black, brown, white or red to spotted or belted blends. Their tracks are similar to deer tracks but with more rounded toes.
Females gestate about 115 days and average two litters per year, six per litter, at any time of the year. Their population can double every four months. they can lived court to five years on average and up to eight years with no natural predators in Missouri.
Females and their young travel in family groups called sounders, while the males, or boars, are generally solitary. Feral hogs are omnivorous, meaning they will eat almost anything from grain to carrion.
This is why I have stated that you need to check with your state dept of conservation. Not to mention that every half-wit will be out there trying to "bag" something for their family to eat & NOT knowing or understanding what is going on around them. And fishing will be just as bad, because some MORON will be out there with explosives or some other durned fool devices trying to feed their family and NOT caring the damage that they are doing to the environment & everyone else out there trying to take care of their families. This is where our local prepper communities are going to have to band together in order to survive, the upcoming/on going collapse of civilization as we knew it.
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Thank you for posting. Was not aware that CWD was in any part of Arkansas.
Do I have permission to repost this elsewhere?
Please spread the word every where loud & clear from the roof tops, the Church Steeples, and everywhere you can think of. Also check with your state’s dept of conservation on these type of topics. It is just one of the many ways of keeping ourselves & our families safe when the fecal matter hits the fan!
Good post.
Thanks for taking the time to spread this info.
Doesn’t it seem that we are being increasingly bombarded on many fronts with various diseases, infections, blights, parasites, invasive exotic species, etc.
CWD, EHD, deer warts, blue tongue, pseudorabies, citrus blight, TPPD palm disease, Lyme disease, zika virus, west nile virus, zebra mussels, sea lampreys, walking catfish, asiatic clams, Burmese pythons, Nile monitors, etc.
There is a lot more to contend with out in the wild or when trying to provide food than a generation or two ago.
Many Preppers and others figure that there is enough 'wild life' , and game animals to sustain themselves
and others during hard times - it ain't so !!
This article demonstrates that we will have other health considerations to take into account - or we jeopardize our own health , and that of our families .
and people wonder why pigs are trayf..
If you pasture this can be a bit of a challenge but most diseases are contacted by your flock in three ways, first is you not keeping them clean, inoculated and properly fed, the second is you bring in sick birds to your flock, always quarantine, the third is from wild birds.
Nature is ruthless and does not give a flip that you are trying to keep your flock alive and healthy.
Mixed flocks, such as turkeys, chickens, pigeons or quail can pass along diseases to each other. Because some may just be carriers quarantine is not always effective in keeping your flock healthy.
A mixed pastured flock can have both advantages and disadvantages.
Off the specific topic, but is a prepper topic: I have about a dozen cans of red feather butter that I am looking to get input on. I got half a dozen about six years ago, and the others about four years back. I know they list a two year shelf life, so I was thinking on cycling them out. Anyone have some input on that idea? I know I should just open a darn can and give it a try (I never have yet) but I keep forgetting to do that.
Thanks for posting.
Still another reason NOT to count on hunting and fishing for survival in the first year(s) after a breakdown.
Even without disease to contend with, the game supply will be gone quickly once desperate people start shooting anything that moves. I have no idea how long it will take for game populations to recover, but it could easily be many years.
Another factor is that the time spent hunting is time you are NOT defending your home. If you’re gone, who’s defending your home?
If you are lucky enough to get something, will some other hunter decide to take it? You might not even see them. If you’re dead they get the deer plus your gun and all your gear. From their perspective, what’s not to like?
If you get something, and don’t get shot yourself, you still have to field dress it and get it home. How many people have ever packed out a deer? How far?
I honestly don't know about the red feather product from personal usage, but as I recall, they use a canned tin , and not one of those "Lift and pull tabs".
Oils and fats turn rancid when exposed to oxygen
The two year date is a "Reccomended Use By Date" by the manufacturer.
I am in the process of using and donating all my "Lift and Pull Tab" cans because they are untrustworthy for long term storage.
I am storing regular off-brand store products that don't use the "Lift and Pull Tabs", even though they are made in the very same manufacturing plant under same conditions.
The can seal is my main concern for long term food storage, along with flavor and taste
I would contact the manufacturer or the distributor where you got the product at their toll-free number for specifics on expiration date and usage date.
Just wait until your neighborhood, your religious group, your race or your voting history identifies you as an “at-risk” population.
When it does hit the fan, the wildlife and livestock will be wiped out within days. Sadly, out of ignorance and stupidity, most of the meat will either be left on the dead animal or will not be preserved properly.
I have far less confidence in increased numbers of hunters than most people on here. I do not think that non-hunters can bag much more than a few horses, mules, and an occasional cow. As for the regular hunters, most of them drive from the city or at least suburbs. There will be a whole lot less driving if things get ugly. I'm not convinced we'll see a huge drop in big game populations.
Well the info I have read is that the suggested use by date is two years from date of purchase (as long as purchase is made from a regular retailer of the butter). Regular canned tin. I have them stored at approx. 65+/- degrees year round downstairs.
My ONLY concern is the whole oils and fats thing. Red Feather is purported to be an excellent product. I think I will remind myself to open one of the older cans and have a look at the contents. Might feed some on a cracker to the hubby if it has a good appearance and no off odors. :) Just don’t know WHAT to do with them if they seem OK, but I don’t want to hold them any longer. Seems a shame to toss them if they are viable. Prepper problem!
Hope you’re right.
I’m sure it is fine as long as they’re sealed and you could smell if it is rancid.
I put stuff out at the side dumpsters near places homeless people hang out, they don’t look at dates.
I bought a case of Red Feather Butter about three years ago. I opened a can and found it rancid. I assume the others are also rancid, but did not toss them. I plan to use them as oil lamps and/or heat sources for cooking or warming food.
YIKES. This stuff isn’t cheap either. Good suggestion for alt use.
This is why we are forming prepper groups/communities. No one single person can do it all, these days. Much like the early human/primitive “mankind”/native “Indians”.
Some would go out & hunt, some would till the ground, others would tend the flocks & herds, while some would gather fire wood & water. All would keep an eye out for danger to the group.
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