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Do Not Support Trump For President
NOLAN CHART ^ | 15 February 2016 | Colonel Steven B. Vitali

Posted on 02/16/2016 6:29:36 AM PST by Col Vit

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To: dware

Then, by your definition, “real patriots” believe everything he says today - including Saturday night, and disregard everything he has said or done in the past:

“Hillary Clinton would make a great president or vice president.”

“Obama is a superstar” - 3 1/2 years into his first term, at which point most “real patriots” knew he was a disaster.

Opposes illegal immigration and will build a wall, despite the fact that he used Polish illegals to build one of his hotels to avoid using union labor and avoid contributions to a union pension fund.

Bought a bar in Philadelphia from a known organized crime figure (Salvatore Testa) and paid him twice its assessed market value.

If that’s your definition of a real patriot, count me out.


101 posted on 02/16/2016 7:16:04 AM PST by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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To: GOPJ

Why Trump?
1) Trump will not join the abortion/gay. This is not for the govt. to be involved in.
2) Although at the time I supported W, the truth about his presidency is that it was BS. He lied just like Obama.
3) Trump is willing to let Putin take down ISIS. Have at it.
4) Trump will is anti-GOP. YAY!
5) Trump may stop the anti-Constitution fall our Republic is heading. Both parties hate him so much. Maybe this will be the catalyst.

Vote Trump.


102 posted on 02/16/2016 7:16:33 AM PST by Uversabound (Our Military past and present: Our Highest example of Brotherhood of Man & Doing God's Will)
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To: Col Vit

Everything in my gut told me 0bama was bad news for the country...that gut feeling happened in 2004 while watching his speech at the DNC convention. He wasn’t even running then...

Trump gives me a similar gut reaction. And many of his supporters here actually scare me with the level of vitriol I have seen. Evaluation and discussion has stopped, literally stopped as both sides attack with a vengeance that almost seems possessed.

Matthew 4, 2 Maccabees 6:12-16 Providential Significance of Persecution keep coming to mind when I consider Trump. And oddly even something along of the lines of running to safety and not deserving liberty pops up too in my feeble mind these days.

Persecution and temptations come. Our nation needs wise leaders, but until the nation repents and turns from her ways we won’t have any. And there in lies the spiritual rub, eh. God disciplines the individual, but waits on the full measure of sin for nations.

The Holy Spirit led Jesus into the desert, so that the devil could test him. ...

There is no such thing as, “Do not forsake God, but...”


103 posted on 02/16/2016 7:16:38 AM PST by EBH (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: nclaurel

“You Cruz guys are so willing to twist the truth..”

Yes, ONLY Cruz supporters twist the truth, because Donald is immaculate and has NEVER told a lie. And Cruz is the biggest liar, EVER, in the entire history of humanity, which is not a lie because Trump said it. Why Ted must be worse than a Ted Bundy, probably a mass murderer.

Do Trump supporters realize that the Donald will eventually turn on them just as viciously? Because no oe can ever please the Donald 100%, everyone else is a slimy idiot.


104 posted on 02/16/2016 7:17:02 AM PST by DaxtonBrown (wrote Harry Reid.s only biography www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: dila813

I didn’t think you could answer nclaurel’s challenge.


105 posted on 02/16/2016 7:17:08 AM PST by Balding_Eagle ( (The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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To: Col Vit

This military family is voting Trump.


106 posted on 02/16/2016 7:17:16 AM PST by navymom1
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To: kjam22
And which candidate was it who said Carson was like a child molestor?

That was bad but it is not the same thing as telling caucus voters, at the exact moment of their vote, that someone had dropped out when he hadn't. I don't know if it changed a single person's actions that night but it really was a terrible thing to do. I think it hurt Cruz badly in NH and beyond.

107 posted on 02/16/2016 7:17:17 AM PST by GizzyGirl
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To: debrawiest

I’m with you; the real Donald came out on Saturday night.


108 posted on 02/16/2016 7:17:46 AM PST by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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To: Yaelle

According to W they re one family...brothers you know. Although Jeb should be upset at W saying Clinton as a brother by a different mother as it speaks poorly of dad’s choice in women. Clinton’s mom was quite the tramp. Then so was obama’s maybe another brother too.


109 posted on 02/16/2016 7:18:24 AM PST by nclaurel
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To: ManHunter

I read a lot about this before we went into Iraq. Every bit of information I could find then synthesized in my head and I believed we should go.

Now I regret believing that. It was wrong, which sometimes takes history to play back. If the Bush people had been chess players instead of checkers, if they had nothing but the American interests (yes, including world democracy) at heart, they would not have gone into Iraq. They would have known that what has happened in the destabilized Middle East would happen in the way they went about it. Saddam deserved what he got and worse. But it’s hard to throw gasoline in a powderkeg. I’m not smart enough to know how, from outside, to stabilize the Middle East, but dear Gd, first Do No Harm.


110 posted on 02/16/2016 7:18:48 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: Safrguns

Now... I do not wish to defend the elitist establishment, but Trump’s efforts are and appear to be targeted towards the RNC just as much as they are towards the media


Thank Gd for Donald Trump.


111 posted on 02/16/2016 7:19:49 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: Col Vit

Go ahead, I'm a conservative too, but you keep drinking that 'conservative koolaid' that the rest of the politicians have been spoon feeding us all these years to get their vote with no reciprocity whatsoever in carrying out what we've wanted.

As for me, I will not drink from the same cup any longer!

* * * * TRUMP 2016 * * * *


112 posted on 02/16/2016 7:20:20 AM PST by LibFreeUSA
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To: Col Vit

Thank you for eloquent post.

And thank you for your service.


113 posted on 02/16/2016 7:21:28 AM PST by LoneStar42 (Turn right.)
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To: Uversabound

stop the anti-Constitution fall our Republic is heading. Both parties hate him so much. Maybe this will be the catalyst.

Vote Trump.


Just this alone. If you care about a constitutional republic, proud of itself in the world, with jobs and prosperity, vote Trump.


114 posted on 02/16/2016 7:21:49 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: Tenacious 1
Computer fire forecasted at FR headquarters.

Heh.


115 posted on 02/16/2016 7:22:07 AM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: EBH
And many of his supporters here actually scare me with the level of vitriol I have seen.

And you aren't bothered by the level of vitriol from Cruz supporters?

Were you not bothered by the Cruz supporter who, in a screaming tantrum, damned all Trump supporters to Hell?

116 posted on 02/16/2016 7:22:10 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Falcon 105)
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To: DaxtonBrown

Don’t get so upset it is bad for your health. I know it is difficult to see what a liar Cruz is after presenting himself as such a Christian. I don’t hold any illusion Trump is perfect but he is a patriot and it has been a long time since one ran for President.


117 posted on 02/16/2016 7:22:23 AM PST by nclaurel
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To: GOPJ

Start shooting them when they lie - that will make them pay attention right quick. Unfortunately there is a downside to that approach ...

Else get used to it - all politicians lie all the time. How else are they going to tell everyone what they want to hear so they can get elected/reelected and stay in power long enough to have a multi-million dollar pension with medical care unavailable to the riff-raff?

Short of that, get the barricades up and begin the revolution - with absolutely no guarantee that you will survive or even win.

Or people can start taking ??courses?? (since they seem incapable of learning in daily life) on how to judge a person’s character and intent regardless of the words spoken.

Or just throw up one’s hands, since all of the above is far too time consuming & plain difficult and go back to watching the Kardashians ...


118 posted on 02/16/2016 7:24:42 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Col Vit

119 posted on 02/16/2016 7:24:58 AM PST by CodeToad (Islam should be banned and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: ConservativeWarrior

“There’s no reason for Trump to “get desperate”.”

You are 100% correct. The fact that he is now acting desperate and unhinged is what is so disturbing. Trump essentially had this thing won until he started going scorched earth on everyone, showing a level of instability. Sorry, but Cruz is not the biggest liar ever. And GW Bush may be an idiot, but I don’t believe he lied on purpose just to get his jollies starting a war.


120 posted on 02/16/2016 7:25:33 AM PST by DaxtonBrown (wrote Harry Reid.s only biography www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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