Posted on 02/05/2016 8:22:26 PM PST by kathsua
Those who think Sen. Ted Cruz can be elected to a job he isnât eligible for are ignoring the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco. If Republicans make the mistake of nominating Cruz for President of the United States, Democrats in California and other states will challenge his eligibility. Thereâs at least a 90% probability the 9th Circuit Court in San Francisco would rule him ineligible because he is a naturalized citizen rather than a ânatural born citizenâ as required by the Constitution.
(Excerpt) Read more at my.telegraph.co.uk ...
Just like an ambassador lives abroad or a soldier serving in another country lives abroad. They are still Americans and his mother was still an American.
Donald agrees with me, only his duped followers continue to think this is a real issue.
“. . .would rule him ineligible because he is a naturalized citizen”
Does anyone know when Cruz went through the naturalization process? I wasn’t aware that he did.
And there is only one other kind of American citizen.
This line of attack needs to be dropped now that Trump says Cruz may be his VP pick.
So, when exactly did Ted Cruz become “naturalized”?
What nationality would he be if he were born on a Panamanian registered ship in the middle of the Pacific Ocean?
RE: Yup, the SC would slap them down within 24 hours.
Depends on which side of the bed either John Roberts or Anthony Kennedy wakes up in the morning.
We already know how Sotomayor, Kagan, Ginsburg and Breyer will rule.
I think the SC would settle the issue by saying born a citizen = natural born. But I could be wrong. It would not hurt to have the issue settled. They might simply reverse the 9th but state that it is entirely up to Congress to decide. There is certainly an argument to be made for that as well.
I believe Cruz is a natural born citizen because his citizenship was naturally conveyed by his mother to him at birth. He was a citizen at birth under the 1952 naturalization act. He did need to be naturalized.
You hit the nail directly on the head. Cruz supporters seem to think we Trump supporters dislike Cruz.
At least until recently, for me, that wasn’t the case at all. Cruz is as good a conservative as you might find. His insurmountable problem is that he’s foreign born.
What’s one thing we agree upon? That successful candidates seeking to take possession of the offices of the presidency or vice presidency must be natural born citizens. We have never elected a candidate born outside the USA. What does that tell you?
That generations of Americans have considered Americans who are not not born in America to not be natural born citizens.
What does this mean? That Cruz can’t be Trump’s veep either.
And that reminds me. Cruz renounced his Canadian citizenship after running for president. Has he ever confirmed that he is an American citizen?
Sorry to bust your chops with all these “laws”. But some of us want to return America to what she was before Obama. Ignoring the law is a bad way to start, a poor foundation upon which to build.
Absolutely correct.
He is completely eligible to be POTUS.
These birther folks need to move on... Defeat the man on his conservative record and policy stances if you disagree, not on this nonsense.
Of course, they can’t, and the chief birther himself is nothing more than a liberal hack lying his face off, which of course is why they attack Cruz on idioms which are irrelevant.
Because we (Americans) voted liberals into positions of power, which is why we need to resist giving it to Trump, who is a lifelong liberal and has only recently began claiming conservative positions in an attempt to get the R nomination.
All persons born in the allegiance of the king are natural-born subjects, and all persons born in the allegiance of the United States are natural-born citizens. Birth and allegiance go together. Such is the rule of the common law, and it is the common law of this country, as well as of England.
Justice Swayne, United States v. Rhodes, 1 Abbott, US 28 (Cir. Ct. Ky 1866)
Natural-born Citizens, those that are born within the jurisdiction of a national government; i.e., in its territorial limits, or those born of citizens, temporarily residing abroad.
William Cox Cochran, The student's law lexicon: a dictionary of legal words and phrases : with appendices, Pg. 185 (1888)
Citizens are either natural-born or naturalized. One who is born in the United States or under its jurisdiction is a natural-born citizen without reference to the nationality of his parents. Their presence here constitutes a temporary allegiance, sufficient to make a child a citizen.
Theodore Dwight, Edward Dwight, Commentaries on the law of persons and personal property, pg. 125 (1894)
Even when Trump appoints another Alito (one of his fave Supremes) or Thomas....they won’t likely favor CRuz’s case.
The first 8 were Colonial British citizens. Not US Citizens as the US did not exist when they were born. America was still a British colony. They became Presidents AFTER the American Revolution which they instigated, fought and won. President Chester Arthur was the original Birther story.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-original-birther-controversy/
Fact are important. So the graph at your link is wrong.
The 9th circus court? The most overturned court in the nation, that 9th circus court?
>>>Should give the Trump cultists pause that this leftist court would agree with them<<<
I’m not sure I get that. Is saying that the Democrats will attack Cruz on this the same as believing ALL those so called “Trump cultists” believe he isn’t Eligible?
From what I read here, some do and some don’t, but it really doesn’t matter. What matters is how this will go down if Cruz, my first choice BTW, is Nominated.
The Democrats will milk this for all it’s worth and even if their Lawsuits do not succeed some Voters, not just disgruntled Trump Supporters will still not be convinced.
That is the reality. Blaming Trump is like blaming the Canary for a gas filled Coal Mine.
I am of the mindset that more Trump Supporters would Vote for Cruz in the General Election than the other way around. Purely subjective on my part, just basing it on what I read on this Site.
Since I am an anybody but a DemoncRat kind of guy, I will Vote for the Republican Nominee no matter what, even Rubio.(though not happily)
Carry on. Just my $.02, your Mileage may vary.
Sorry, but the first 7 Presidents were not born on US soil, they were born within the British commonwealth. In fact, they were citizens of Britain.
Yet somehow they were “natural born citizens”...
I wonder why... Maybe because they were citizens from the start of the country, and we’re not immigrants to said country.
Cruz is the same, he was and is a citizen from birth.
Deal. With. It.
May want to tell your overseer....he started the birther nonsense and failed then too.
The best thing Hillary has going for her is Trump, who is a friend to the Clintons.
Are the Clintons trustworthy?
Are friends of the Clintons trustworthy?
Eligible whether the constitution says so or not.
Fixed it.
This article is not “Telegraph”; it is a lunatic limey blog f*rt.
This is not going to get in from the 9th Circuit or any other.
Total horse puckey.
No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution,
The constitution made an exception for them. It did not make an exception for Ted Cruz.
As the President is required to be a native citizen of the United States. Natives are all persons born within the jurisdiction and allegiance of the United States.
James Kent, COMMENTARIES ON AMERICAN LAW (1826)
In your dreams.
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