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TRUMP'S PAST PRIVATE LIBERALISM VS REPUBLICAN TREACHERY IN OFFICE SINCE THE 1930s
EE | 29 JANUARY 2016 | EEE

Posted on 01/29/2016 6:04:01 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist

Anyone who can post any transcripts or archives of Trump co-sponsoring, sponsoring, supporting thereof, participating in a Gang of 8 or 12, or signing any leftist policies while holding elective office capacity, I will immediately discontinue my support of him.

The Republican Party has lost 12 of the last 21 presidential elections dating back to 1932.

Of the Republicans who won, George H.W. Bush won in 1988 only because he rode on the coattails of Ronaldus Magnimus' revolution. He lost in 1992.

Nixon won in 1968 and 1972 on an aggressive law-and-order campaign, but was disastrous in implementing many of the Left's projects (OSHA, EPA, wage and price controls) that are destroying America now.

Eisenhower, although a moderate, won because he was a heroic military general.

George W. Bush lost the popular vote in 2000; and barely won Ohio in 2004 to beat back John Kerry.

So that leaves Reagan's sole two landslides in 1980 and 1984 that is the benchmark of Republican Party presidential epitome. Not counting the 1966, 1994, 2010, and 2014 Republican Congressional landslides.

Why do you think the Republican Party has lost half of all presidential elections since 1932, and didn't pursue conservative goals in three-quarters of the ones they won?

They've reached out to moderates, independents, and undecided voters until they were blue in the face; and yet they did not get these voters.

Donald Trump isn't reaching out to these voters. They are FLOCKING to him en masse.

He's doing the very same thing that the head honchos at the RNC, GOPe, K-street, Fox News, and Chamber of Commerce want Republicans to do; yet he's being vilified for simply running in the race.

Trump was NEVER in an elective office position where he wielded influence over legislation. His donations to Democrats were more about helping his home state and city than about supporting the liberalism of the PACs he was donating to. Trump has never donated to Democrat candidates directly.

Now the Republican Party has a candidate, who is getting the independents, moderates, blacks, legal Hispanics, and blue-collar Democrats that Republicans say they need to get in order to win.

So what is the Republican Party doing?

They are defecating on the very candidate that will give the party it's first presidential landslide since 1988.

What does that tell you?

Do you believe that the people who are supporting Trump - many of whom get belittled by National Review, Weekly Standard, HotAir, Townhall, and other Salem Communication-owned websites, as well as even some FReepers - really going to hold their noses for a Rubio, a Christie, a Kasich, or God-forbid, a Jeb Bush?

Trump's past liberalism is a total non-issue. If he hasn't held elective office where he could have put his liberalism to work and affected millions of Americans via legislation, he wouldn't get elected to the town water board.


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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
We are at a crossroads of losing the country, that is the country as I knew it. Reagan turned me politically. I never really saw him as a Republican. To me he was a patriot, America first.

Since Reagan, conservatism on the political level has been about chatting up smaller government and reducing entitlements. Not only did none of that happen, but companies have been leaving this country in droves since the mid nineties, all with the blessing of the Republican party. If that wasn't bad enough, we have been flooding the country with legal and illegal third world immigrants.

In short, to be a good conservative Republican all you needed to do is talk about less government while wearing a shield of professed morality. American first hasn't been an issue since Reagan.

21 posted on 01/29/2016 6:41:26 PM PST by Lagmeister ( false prophets shall rise, and shall show signs and wonders Mark 13:22)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Trump has donated directly to many politicians. Reid, Emanuel, Shumer, Charlie Crist, Arlen Specter, Frank Lautenberg, John McCain, Charlie Rangel, Kirsten Gillibrand, John Kerry, Rudy Giuliani, Daschle, Newt and Ted Kennedy to name just some.


22 posted on 01/29/2016 6:44:55 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Lol.


23 posted on 01/29/2016 6:46:11 PM PST by RginTN (Donald J Trump- why would the people of Ky want a rookie senator when they have Sen Mitch Mcconnell)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
"Trump has never donated to Democrat candidates directly."

That is because he could only donate a small amount directly. Not enough to influence the candidate. He donated $50k to Rham Emanuel's campaign PAC in 2010 and I am sure Rham was totaly aware of that.

24 posted on 01/29/2016 6:46:18 PM PST by Cannoneer ( "..raise a standard to which the wise and honest can repair.." GW)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Trump changed his donation pattern in 2012. He began to give more to Republicans than Democrats. Until that point he gave money to Democrats and liberal Republicans mostly. About the same time he went after Obama on the birther thing, saw the light on murdering late term babies and started liking guns. Coincidence? Not really. Trump is a smart man putting on a conservative cloak and doing some polling.

And here we are.


25 posted on 01/29/2016 6:51:43 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Relax. Only Trump can bring down Trump. If he is foolish enough to blow his lead by his doing, he does not deserve to win.


26 posted on 01/29/2016 6:52:31 PM PST by TornadoAlley3 (I like Trump and Cruz. Leave me the heck alone.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

You make a lot of good points here, but I think you really over-sell Donald Trump. And you’re taking a great leap of faith that he is somehow going to follow through — or even have any interest in following through — on his campaign promises/rants.


27 posted on 01/29/2016 7:03:40 PM PST by Alberta's Child (My mama said: "To get things done, you'd better not mess with Major Tom.")
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To: Fiji Hill
He didn't campaign as a moderate but promised action on the issues of Korea, Communism and corruption. He also made peace with his conservative rival Sen. Robert A. Taft (R-Ohio).

He was a greatly under appreciated President. The Interstate Highway System was an actual public works project that did make America great.

His so called warning about the military industrial complex has been misconstrued. He was also warning about the government scientific complex.

The prospect of domination of the nation's scholars by Federal employment, project allocation, and the power of money is ever present and is gravely to be regarded.

Yet in holding scientific discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite.


He was a great President and prescient too.
28 posted on 01/29/2016 7:16:44 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media. #2ndAmendmentMatters)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Eisenhower campaigned on conservative themes in 1952, but when he got in, he governed as a moderate. Just as in 1968, Nixon campaigned as the champion of the “forgotten man,” the hard-pressed Middle American from flyover country, then swung hard left once he made it to the White House.


29 posted on 01/29/2016 7:21:13 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Convenient and deceitful. Pretend since he has not held office the almost universal liberal positions he has held can be ignored.

Typical failed logic of Trump supporters.


30 posted on 01/29/2016 7:28:42 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie

Ok Cruzer, let’s hear you explain TPA, Corker, and the installation of Ryan via the Freedom Caucus and Cruz.


31 posted on 01/29/2016 7:47:29 PM PST by datura (Proud Infidel)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Eisenhower, although a moderate, won because he was a heroic military general.

Throughout our history, from the beginning of the Republic, the only people we've elected President with no prior experience in public office were generals. Every other president has held some prior office.

32 posted on 01/29/2016 8:10:04 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Lagmeister

Exactly America first with Trump!


33 posted on 01/29/2016 8:44:04 PM PST by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Interesting. Thanks. 3 Conservative Republican presidents in the 20 Th century. Reagan, Coolidge, Taft.


34 posted on 01/29/2016 8:48:03 PM PST by BigEdLB (Take it Easy, Chuck. I'm Not Taking it Back -- Donald Trump)
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To: datura

Good points


35 posted on 01/29/2016 8:54:44 PM PST by BigEdLB (Take it Easy, Chuck. I'm Not Taking it Back -- Donald Trump)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Anyone who can post any transcripts or archives of Trump co-sponsoring, sponsoring, supporting thereof, participating in a Gang of 8 or 12, or signing any leftist policies while holding elective office capacity, I will immediately discontinue my support of him.

How about hiring illegal immigrants and paying them peanuts?

Less than a third of Trump voters would desert him if he just shot someone for no reason

Yay!


36 posted on 01/29/2016 9:03:13 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: digger48

um...why stop at 1932 ?


37 posted on 01/29/2016 9:26:27 PM PST by stylin19a
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To: jwalsh07
Trump changed his donation pattern in 2012. He began to give more to Republicans than Democrats. Until that point he gave money to Democrats and liberal Republicans mostly. About the same time he went after Obama on the birther thing, saw the light on murdering late term babies and started liking guns. Coincidence? Not really. Trump is a smart man putting on a conservative cloak and doing some polling.

And here we are.

Your aspersion has a very hollow feel. It is so sad this needs to be pointed out to you.

Several years ago, if you dealt in New York politically, you dealt with Democrats, it's what you did. The same could be said in the South 30 years ago, Republicans were almost nonexistent.

In Georgia there was an unbroken span of Democrat Governors for 131 years up until 2003. The Republican party finally attained the Senate majority in 2003 and the majority in our House of Representatives in 2005. All the political influence down here before then went to Democrats, just as it was in New York.

If you want to effectively denigrate Donald Trump you need to try harder.

38 posted on 01/29/2016 9:51:55 PM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! Trump 2016!)
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To: datura
Ok Cruzer, let’s hear you explain TPA, Corker, and the installation of Ryan via the Freedom Caucus and Cruz.

OK TRUMP Fanboi here it is:

1. The TPA is constitutional, even Reagan supported it. The Supreme Court has weighed in on this multiple times. Many, Many Presidents have used this mechanism.

2. With respect to the Corker Bill, here is Ted's reasoning for voting against Cloture and finally voting for the bill:
“This bill was a missed opportunity. If Congress had acted to defend our constitutional authority – if Congress had adopted the Cruz-Toomey amendment – then we would be able to stop a bad Iran deal. Instead, the odds are now overwhelming that under these ground rules President Obama will negotiate, and Congress will acquiesce to, a terrible deal that allows Iran to acquire nuclear weapons and will endanger the lives of millions of Americans and our allies.

“I voted no on cloture because we should have insisted on amendments to put real teeth in this bill. Ultimately, I voted yes on final passage because it may delay, slightly, President Obama’s ability to lift the Iran sanctions and it ensures we will have a Congressional debate on the merits of the Iran deal. I will continue to lead the fight to prevent the Islamic Republic of Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons and to protect the national security of America and our allies.”


3. How do you come to the conclusion that Cruz had anything with the installation of Ryan, now TRUMP(PRAISE BE TO HIS NAME!) wouldn't have anything against Ryan given his Bromance with McConnell.

Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, an influential right-wing lawmaker running for president, refused to call Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis., a "true conservative" Sunday when he was asked about the ongoing race for Speaker of the House that has highlighted the rift among House Republicans. Ryan, who has not made a formal decision as to whether or not he will run for the speaker spot, is widely seen as one of the best chances Republicans have for rallying support between the more moderate House Republicans and the several dozen hard-line conservative members who are the source of all the turmoil.

"I like Paul Ryan. He’s a friend of mine. This is obviously a question that is wrapped up in the Speaker of the House deliberations," Cruz told NBC News' Meet the Press host Chuck Todd. Cruz refused to give an opinion that could influence the speaker race. When pressed, he doubled down and added that he thinks syndicated conservative Radio Host Mark Levin is a "true conservative." Levin has recently said he does not think Ryan is in that category.

While Cruz himself is not a member of the House of Representatives and therefore can't vote for who will pick up the gavel, he does wield considerable influence in the House Freedom Caucus, a group of roughly 40 lawmakers that has tied up legislation in the House that they don't see as being conservative enough. The task before House Republicans, as they look ahead to picking a new speaker to replace soon-to-be-retired Rep. John Boehner, is to find a leader who can strike a balance between the two groups and move legislation.


Now, juxtapose that with the flip-flopping and crappy Liberal past of your idol TRUMP (PRAISE BE TO HIS NAME!):

1. Currently supports KELO.
2. Currently supports Socialistic Healthcare
3. Will not fight against Gay Marriage, even from a 10th Amendment perspective
4. Is Pro-Abortion. Supports abortion for Rape, Incest, Life of Mother and dependent on the age of the unborn-baby.
5. Proclaimed to Megyn Kelly in 2011 that those who skipped the debates were cowards. Can you say total hypocrite and coward?
6. Supported Partial Birth Abortion.
7. Supports Touch-Back Amnesty.
8. Has supported Hillary Clinton and Obama in the past.


TRUMP (PRAISE BE TO HIS NAME) is the perfect example of a "Campaign" conservative and given his book the Art of the Deal, you should already know that he is telling you exactly what you want to hear right now because he needs your vote, however, when the general election comes, if we are so unlucky to have him win the Primaries, he will do a hard-pivot to the left because that is where he actually lives, proven by the facts above.

And when he does that in the General Election, any Democrat will beat him just like they did McCain and Romney. 8.
39 posted on 01/29/2016 11:28:45 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist; Albion Wilde; All

Great post; thread. Thanks for the ping/link.

HOORAY Trump


40 posted on 01/30/2016 4:42:03 AM PST by PGalt
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