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Brewers Ping List
None ^ | 1 January 2016 | Self

Posted on 01/27/2016 11:37:07 AM PST by taxcontrol

Hello folks. Taxcontrol here and I am taking over the Brewer/Vintner ping list from Red_Devil 232. The list is for all that work with yeast to produce alcohol. So Beer, Wine, Mead, Spirits, even fuel producers are all welcome.

So some questions:
- I am going to assume that you want to be on the list unless you tell me otherwise
- How often is an approprite regularly scheduled ping to the list (any time a relevant article is posted, weekly, bi weekly, monthly)?
- How often should we cover recipes and when? Friday perhaps?
- any other thoughts or recommendations?


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Food; Hobbies; Science
KEYWORDS: alcohol; beer; mead; wine
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To: taxcontrol

add me add me!


21 posted on 01/27/2016 12:16:54 PM PST by Klemper (i)
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To: taxcontrol
Wait, Fuel Producers ???

Corn should be made into Whiskey, not gasoline :)

22 posted on 01/27/2016 12:20:51 PM PST by onona (Check your shark at the door)
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To: showme_the_Glory

$100 bucks. Give or take depending on how you behave in the candy store :)


23 posted on 01/27/2016 12:22:08 PM PST by onona (Check your shark at the door)
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To: taxcontrol

I am in. New here to FR but I got spirit!


24 posted on 01/27/2016 12:55:29 PM PST by Fitz the celt (irish mex food lover / brewer)
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To: onona

Well, technically distillation of spirits is illegal. But if you are producing “fuel”.....


25 posted on 01/27/2016 12:59:34 PM PST by taxcontrol ( The GOPe treats the conservative base like slaves by taking their votes and refuses to pay)
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To: taxcontrol

Woot Woot!

I’ve got a partial mash bubbling up in my basement right now.
10-12 more days I figure, then straight to the corney keg for a force carb.

Welcome back all!


26 posted on 01/27/2016 1:51:26 PM PST by BigpapaBo (If it don't kill you it'll make you _________!)
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To: taxcontrol

Please add me. If you have ever heard of the WhaleSlayer bottle opener, I’m the original maker.


27 posted on 01/27/2016 1:55:57 PM PST by Hotmetal
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To: unixfox

This is so true, unless you go from keg to bottle.


28 posted on 01/27/2016 1:57:44 PM PST by Hotmetal
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To: showme_the_Glory

I purchased my current set-up off of craigslist, re-sale shops and my local supply shop. Only a couple of items were purchased online via eBay Amazon or other web stores.
Got 4 used Cornelius kegs (Corny kegs) for 15.00 each. 4 new seal kits for the kegs were 4.50 each. Hoses fittings and taps were 25.00. Cleaner and starsan sanitizer 12.00. Glass 5 and 6 gallon carbouy for primary and secondary fermentation 10 bucks each at goodwill. Long handled cleaning brush for the carbouys 5.00.
Stainless 5 gallon brew pot 5 bucks at goodwill. Flex tubing for transfer and kegging 3.00 new.
If you keep you eyes open to what you need, everything can be found very cheaply.
Buckets and bottling can be even cheaper.


29 posted on 01/27/2016 2:07:32 PM PST by BigpapaBo (If it don't kill you it'll make you _________!)
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To: Hotmetal

Added to the list

I have not heard of it. Do you have a good URL that I can check it out?


30 posted on 01/27/2016 2:11:51 PM PST by taxcontrol ( The GOPe treats the conservative base like slaves by taking their votes and refuses to pay)
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To: showme_the_Glory

So here are the basics:

Equipment kit
brewers kit (grains yeast caps etc)
bottles

A high level overview of the process (for beer, wine and mead are similar just very in ingredients and time).

1) Sterilize everything
2) boil the grains or fruit
3) cool down and put into the ferment pot
4) add yeast and put in vapor lock
5) wait (week or more) - sterilize 2nd pot before transfer
6) after most (first) ferment is done, transfer to another ferment pot for 2nd ferment
7) sterilize bottles, caps and transfer equipment
8) desolive bottling sugar and add to wort (the mix in the fermenting pot
9) let settle for a min or two and then transfer to bottles and cap
10) wait a week or more for beer, 6 months or more for wine/mead

Now, my vote for best equipment is http://www.fastbrewing.com/products/fastferment and the kit runs about $100 not counting taxes and shipping. The advantage of this equipment is that first and 2nd ferment is all done in the same pot. For beer, this is a good thing. For wines ... not so much as it ties up your fermentor for a while.

Other traditional beer kits are 6 gallon ABS plastic can for 1st ferment and 6 gallon glass carboy for 2nd ferment. The advantage of this system is that you can have several glass carboys going at the same time. Because of the length of time involved, this is a better option for vintners.


31 posted on 01/27/2016 2:22:18 PM PST by taxcontrol ( The GOPe treats the conservative base like slaves by taking their votes and refuses to pay)
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To: taxcontrol

I forgot to add the summary:

$100 for the equipment kit
$45 for a brew kit
$36 for bottles (3 cases)

First brew works out to call it $180 for 30 bottles of beer (roughly) so about $6 per bottle. But the first brew pays for all your equipment so 2nd brew works out to $1 to $1.5 per beer .... and that is MUCH higher quality beer. By the time you get to using kegs or getting your own grains instead of buying a kit, you can push the price down to sub $1 per beer. Considering that most decent beers in my area are running $10 per six pack .... well it is really a no brainer. And if you get into wines which can run $20 a bottle or more, it is a very viable proposition.

Lastly, it is a great prepper skill to have.


32 posted on 01/27/2016 2:31:31 PM PST by taxcontrol ( The GOPe treats the conservative base like slaves by taking their votes and refuses to pay)
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To: taxcontrol

Please add me to the list.


33 posted on 01/27/2016 2:35:30 PM PST by csvset ( Illegitimi non carborundum)
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To: taxcontrol

Add me too please!!


34 posted on 01/27/2016 2:37:44 PM PST by 4everontheRight (And the story began with..."Once there was a great nation......")
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To: taxcontrol

Here’s a slideshow, not the best I’m not a computer guru.
http://s842.photobucket.com/user/hotmetal_bucket/library/Handmade%20Bottle%20openers


35 posted on 01/27/2016 2:39:42 PM PST by Hotmetal
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To: showme_the_Glory

About $100. Northern brewing and midwest supply have good beginner kits. Good service too.


36 posted on 01/27/2016 2:47:33 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Liberals LOVE Open Carry!)
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To: taxcontrol

Thanks for starting again. Please keep me on the Ping List.


37 posted on 01/27/2016 3:02:07 PM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: onona; RKBA Democrat; taxcontrol; BigpapaBo

Thank you all. I’m gonna give it a whirl.


38 posted on 01/27/2016 3:03:17 PM PST by showme_the_Glory ((ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government))
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

“On the periphery...”

“I hold the Bourbon Ping list.
Anyone want on, FR-email me, DON’T ask through this thread...”

I make Bourbon Beers. Does that qualify me for both lists?


39 posted on 01/27/2016 3:05:29 PM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: taxcontrol

Whiskey distilled strictly for fueling purposes. The best fuels are made from corn mash and filtered through charcoal dontchaknow.


40 posted on 01/27/2016 4:03:09 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Liberals LOVE Open Carry!)
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